So Who's Afraid Of An LS1?
Thanks for the support guys.
This build was never meant to be a my car versus your car deal. We set out to show how fast a low buck, stock internals LT1 could really go. We built a Stock Eliminator car around it so that the kids would have a place to race that is every bit as challenging as the build.
If you want to compare performance of your "built" cars, at least choose the right car. Gump is a much better choice. I really like the fact that Mike (Mdacton) is calling me out. He is a pretty cool dude in person and has called me out on public forum. And Mike, you will have to wait your turn. Warren asked first!
(Not sure who's photo this is, so I hope it is OK to post it. If not, I will take it down)
This build was never meant to be a my car versus your car deal. We set out to show how fast a low buck, stock internals LT1 could really go. We built a Stock Eliminator car around it so that the kids would have a place to race that is every bit as challenging as the build.
If you want to compare performance of your "built" cars, at least choose the right car. Gump is a much better choice. I really like the fact that Mike (Mdacton) is calling me out. He is a pretty cool dude in person and has called me out on public forum. And Mike, you will have to wait your turn. Warren asked first!
(Not sure who's photo this is, so I hope it is OK to post it. If not, I will take it down)
Don't know. Why not conduct an experiement. Either put it back to stock weight or ballast to 3500lbs w/out driver and see what happens. 
There really no need to get defensive. Like I said, I'm not taking away from what you've done. It's just that regardless how you get the weight out of the car, weight is a key ingredient.
There really no need to get defensive. Like I said, I'm not taking away from what you've done. It's just that regardless how you get the weight out of the car, weight is a key ingredient.Look at the pics of his car..... I bet it makes 300rwhp or less and leaves harder than alot of guys I have seen. The car works.
You can just add wt. he could fill it up with wt. car might go faster. His wt has been taken out in the right places and the car works.
More than we can say for you brian......
I could not agree more. Don't know why you all get so sensitive when it comes to discussing power to weight. It's amazing. 
You know for a FACT if I put MY engine in YOUR car it would BE WAY WAY WAY WAY faster than what YOUR jalopy runs NOW, Mike and you KNOW it.
More than we can say for you brian......
I was just jokin darren, dont get upset...... I wasent even going to go. what sgump run? I been 10.64 130 with head that flowed 230cfm on motor I have been disapointed with what I had. But I have a set of LE2s on the way and a custom LE cam...so things are looking up
Can I see the math on the second part PLEASE??
man Im 3420#
I was just jokin darren, dont get upset...... I wasent even going to go. what sgump run? I been 10.64 130 with head that flowed 230cfm on motor I have been disapointed with what I had. But I have a set of LE2s on the way and a custom LE cam...so things are looking up
I was just jokin darren, dont get upset...... I wasent even going to go. what sgump run? I been 10.64 130 with head that flowed 230cfm on motor I have been disapointed with what I had. But I have a set of LE2s on the way and a custom LE cam...so things are looking up
I WOULD but you JUST wouldn't UNDERSTAND. Therefore there is NO point...............................
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You know who else builds lots of power and cant ET? FWD Turbo Hondas and Supras. Making XXX amount of power is just a dick measuring contest, if you want to go drag racing, these stupid arguements about would or could just dont work cause plain and simple it DIDNT AND DOESNT.
Sure now lets here about well I wanted it to have AC and a stock interior and to drive it to the track BLAH BLAH BLAH, I dont care, not my fault, still slow.
man Im 3420#
I was just jokin darren, dont get upset...... I wasent even going to go. what sgump run? I been 10.64 130 with head that flowed 230cfm on motor I have been disapointed with what I had. But I have a set of LE2s on the way and a custom LE cam...so things are looking up
I was just jokin darren, dont get upset...... I wasent even going to go. what sgump run? I been 10.64 130 with head that flowed 230cfm on motor I have been disapointed with what I had. But I have a set of LE2s on the way and a custom LE cam...so things are looking up
what sgump run?
Launching!
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I wonder just what kind of "excuses" would be presented when discussing why a fast "pure stocker" is as quick as they are. Congrats on the accomplishment Daren. Hats off to you guys from this old Michigander.
Regards
Skip
Regards
Skip
I don't know about you, but I am really looking forward to this years festivities.
The kids car is good for this season. I should have my new motor finished for Gump in the next few weeks. Then I will start on an LT4 for the Shootout. I'm going to use mostly old stuff that I have laying around. I hope that it has enough HP to make a good showing.
The kids car is good for this season. I should have my new motor finished for Gump in the next few weeks. Then I will start on an LT4 for the Shootout. I'm going to use mostly old stuff that I have laying around. I hope that it has enough HP to make a good showing.
Last edited by GIZMO; Mar 9, 2010 at 07:27 PM.
You still fixing a Stocker? If you need anything don't hesitate to ask.
Gizmo, nice numbers!
Jon
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95 Pontiac Formula- Stock engine with ATI Procharger, Moser 12 bolt w/4:30 gears, Rossler trans, Neil Chance 4000 stall, M/T ET streets, 10.914@ 121.90mph, 1.452 60ft. GMHTP November 2010 Feature Car. Check it out at:
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...ebird-formula/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZ1z...ature=youtu.be
95 Pontiac Formula- Stock engine with ATI Procharger, Moser 12 bolt w/4:30 gears, Rossler trans, Neil Chance 4000 stall, M/T ET streets, 10.914@ 121.90mph, 1.452 60ft. GMHTP November 2010 Feature Car. Check it out at:
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...ebird-formula/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZ1z...ature=youtu.be
I don't know about you, but I am really looking forward to this years festivities.
The kids car is good for this season. I should have my new motor finished for Gump in the next few weeks. Then I will start on an LT4 for the Shootout. I'm going to use mostly old stuff that I have laying around. I hope that it has enough HP to make a good showing.
The kids car is good for this season. I should have my new motor finished for Gump in the next few weeks. Then I will start on an LT4 for the Shootout. I'm going to use mostly old stuff that I have laying around. I hope that it has enough HP to make a good showing.
TECH Apprentice
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Your trap speed is not enough, i will let you know what my stock 6.0 does with a cam. The last 6.0 we built did 7.3 at 96 MPH at 3450 with driver, 3.42 gears and a 2800 stall.
Mine should be better with a manual trans and 4.30 gears and allot of better parts. Keep in mind this was a carbed 6.0 so we have the old disadvantage, because everyone knows carbs suck.
LOL
Mine should be better with a manual trans and 4.30 gears and allot of better parts. Keep in mind this was a carbed 6.0 so we have the old disadvantage, because everyone knows carbs suck.
LOL
Well arent you king turd of **** mountain. Jesus Christ guys the guy came on here showing what a properly set up car can do. He didnt come on here saying my cars faster than yours. Anyone with a functional brain knows an LT1 aint gonna keep up mod to mod with your lil carb LS1 so thanks for reminding all us inferior LT1 guys, I am pretty sure Gizmo was just trying to show what you can run with a set up car with a very mild LT1 motor. And by the way a carbed 6.0 is definately not a disadvantage. I have seen so many LS1 cars pick up big by switching to a carb style intake due to the intake runners being shorter.