So Who's Afraid Of An LS1?
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I don't mean to throw fuel on the fire (please ignore my post if you must). But seeing the car has been gutted severely, it really does take away a lot of the awesomeness. I don't think the op compared it to "normal" cars, but there is ZERO point in comparing that to people who have "street" cars. He has a sardine can with an lt1 under its seal. 500lbs is a large difference he would only be "roughly 7.5" or so if the car was "normal" weight. It has full suspension with a stall, tires etc. I just do not see it being all that spectacular.
With that being said, gratz on the low 7's, blows my doors off, and you helped teenagers keep their time busy and learning about the dreaded lt1.
With that being said, gratz on the low 7's, blows my doors off, and you helped teenagers keep their time busy and learning about the dreaded lt1.
There are some ignorant people in this thread! 
To the guy with the 6.0L going 7.3s @ 96, that ****'s slow! Seen a car here in Mooresville go 6.70s @ 102 with a stock headed 6L, at just a couple hundred pounds lighter than you.
I bet Gizmos car would run LOW 12s at around full weight.
Gizmo, when is the Mooresville race? Weather was terrible last year and I never made it out to see you guys run.
To the guy with the 6.0L going 7.3s @ 96, that ****'s slow! Seen a car here in Mooresville go 6.70s @ 102 with a stock headed 6L, at just a couple hundred pounds lighter than you.I bet Gizmos car would run LOW 12s at around full weight.
Gizmo, when is the Mooresville race? Weather was terrible last year and I never made it out to see you guys run.
I don't mean to throw fuel on the fire (please ignore my post if you must). But seeing the car has been gutted severely, it really does take away a lot of the awesomeness. I don't think the op compared it to "normal" cars, but there is ZERO point in comparing that to people who have "street" cars. He has a sardine can with an lt1 under its seal. 500lbs is a large difference he would only be "roughly 7.5" or so if the car was "normal" weight. It has full suspension with a stall, tires etc. I just do not see it being all that spectacular.
With that being said, gratz on the low 7's, blows my doors off, and you helped teenagers keep their time busy and learning about the dreaded lt1.
With that being said, gratz on the low 7's, blows my doors off, and you helped teenagers keep their time busy and learning about the dreaded lt1.
I don't mean to throw fuel on the fire (please ignore my post if you must). But seeing the car has been gutted severely, it really does take away a lot of the awesomeness. I don't think the op compared it to "normal" cars, but there is ZERO point in comparing that to people who have "street" cars. He has a sardine can with an lt1 under its seal. 500lbs is a large difference he would only be "roughly 7.5" or so if the car was "normal" weight. It has full suspension with a stall, tires etc. I just do not see it being all that spectacular.
With that being said, gratz on the low 7's, blows my doors off, and you helped teenagers keep their time busy and learning about the dreaded lt1.
With that being said, gratz on the low 7's, blows my doors off, and you helped teenagers keep their time busy and learning about the dreaded lt1.
That's not even the point of the build. It is an exercise in seeing how fast you can go with the factory stuff in a decent chassis. What part of a 295 HP 3000 lb LT1 car that ran 7.09 is not cool? Ever look at the stock internals LS1 list? A lot of lighter LS1's can't run with this car. I think that is really cool.
I really don't get comments like yours. You obviously don't have a clue what it takes to field something like this.
Last edited by GIZMO; Mar 9, 2010 at 09:19 PM.
Sorry, but the car is not a tin can. Did you miss the fact that it has all of the interior except the rear seat including functional power windows? It also has all the factory body panels in place and the crash stuff. Light yes, but tin can, NO.
That's not even the point of the build. It is an exercise in seeing how fast you can go with the factory stuff in a decent chassis. What part of a 295 HP 3000 lb LT1 car that ran 7.09 is not cool? Ever look at the stock internals LS1 list. A lot of lighter LS1's can't run with this car. I think that is really cool.
I really don't get comments like yours. You obviously don't have a clue what it takes to field something like this.
That's not even the point of the build. It is an exercise in seeing how fast you can go with the factory stuff in a decent chassis. What part of a 295 HP 3000 lb LT1 car that ran 7.09 is not cool? Ever look at the stock internals LS1 list. A lot of lighter LS1's can't run with this car. I think that is really cool.
I really don't get comments like yours. You obviously don't have a clue what it takes to field something like this.
Oh and IMO 7.5s is pretty fast.
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GIZMO.... good job with the car!!! Im close to shelby and would like to see the car/hang out some time....I've got a lot to learn about the ltx world being a former stanger. Do you tnt at shady any?
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I was very impressed with Darren's car at the shootout last year, obviously the man knows his stuff when it comes to building very efficient combo's.
Congrats on the build see you at the shootout.
Congrats on the build see you at the shootout.
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Eh, 
It run's 14's on a bad run.
Sigh, I know what the point of the build was, hence why I said gratz at the end. If the car is not a "tin can" then how would you describe it so we can quit calling it a tin can?
All I was saying is the huge weight saving really take away from how cool it is. Sure it has all them items in it but that 500lbs~ had to come out from somewhere.
I guess I am not surprised at what it run's considering what is done to it.
It run's 14's on a bad run.That's not even the point of the build. It is an exercise in seeing how fast you can go with the factory stuff in a decent chassis. What part of a 295 HP 3000 lb LT1 car that ran 7.09 is not cool? Ever look at the stock internals LS1 list? A lot of lighter LS1's can't run with this car. I think that is really cool.
All I was saying is the huge weight saving really take away from how cool it is. Sure it has all them items in it but that 500lbs~ had to come out from somewhere.
I guess I am not surprised at what it run's considering what is done to it.
Last edited by bombebomb; Mar 9, 2010 at 10:06 PM.
This car is a study of how fast we can go with a car that is legal for Stock Eliminator. We chose a combination. Set a performance goal (and beat it). We are not after any internet records or out to impress anyone.
If the subject of this thread is not for you........
Sorry, but the car is not a tin can. Did you miss the fact that it has all of the interior except the rear seat including functional power windows? It also has all the factory body panels in place and the crash stuff. Light yes, but tin can, NO.
That's not even the point of the build. It is an exercise in seeing how fast you can go with the factory stuff in a decent chassis. What part of a 295 HP 3000 lb LT1 car that ran 7.09 is not cool? Ever look at the stock internals LS1 list? A lot of lighter LS1's can't run with this car. I think that is really cool.
I really don't get comments like yours. You obviously don't have a clue what it takes to field something like this.
That's not even the point of the build. It is an exercise in seeing how fast you can go with the factory stuff in a decent chassis. What part of a 295 HP 3000 lb LT1 car that ran 7.09 is not cool? Ever look at the stock internals LS1 list? A lot of lighter LS1's can't run with this car. I think that is really cool.
I really don't get comments like yours. You obviously don't have a clue what it takes to field something like this.
Eh, It run's 14's on a bad run.
Sigh, I know what the point of the build was, hence why I said gratz at the end. If the car is not a "tin can" then how would you describe it so we can quit calling it a tin can?
All I was saying is the huge weight saving really take away from how cool it is. Sure it has all them items in it but that 500lbs~ had to come out from somewhere.
I guess I am not surprised at what it run's considering what is done to it.
It run's 14's on a bad run.Sigh, I know what the point of the build was, hence why I said gratz at the end. If the car is not a "tin can" then how would you describe it so we can quit calling it a tin can?
All I was saying is the huge weight saving really take away from how cool it is. Sure it has all them items in it but that 500lbs~ had to come out from somewhere.
I guess I am not surprised at what it run's considering what is done to it.
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I know, that is why in my first reply, I tried to point out that I was not directing it at you. I read the original thread and liked it quite a bit, which I said in the thread near the beginning of the build. You did your build to
I am sorry if I am not giving you enough credit to satisfy your accomplishment.
While we will never know this, I think that is a bit overkill personally.
I am working with the youth from my church to build and campaign an LT1 drag car. We have decided to run a "stock internals" combination to start with. The goal is to run a 11.30 with stock factory parts.
While we will never know this, I think that is a bit overkill personally.
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It does not have the A/C, it does still have all the AC left over items in the firewall. When I ran the 12 I had these items not in the car
spare
jack
floor mat
AC
ok so your car has been on a diet also, even though all those things were taken out i would take your 12 second pass from you just cause you lightened the car up a little bit
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Umm, if you want I guess? Kind of a silly comparison, kind of like comparing someone who drinks once a month to an alcoholic.