LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

LT4 Knock Module

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-20-2004 | 04:53 PM
  #21  
WhiteThunderZ28's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
From: Your girls house, she is on my "D", Wisconsin
Default

I guess the LT1 KM retards the timing enough for N20 and the LT4km doesnt, thats why I keeping mine LT1 km just for that reason cause I might run N20 soon but who knows
Old 09-20-2004 | 05:36 PM
  #22  
Nasty_T/A_GT's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Default

I really need to pick one up sometime, Im sure it will help with my setup.
Old 09-21-2004 | 06:51 AM
  #23  
Mike Comp T/A #57's Avatar
10 Second Club
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 188
Likes: 0
From: Loveland, Ohio
Default

I use the LT4 KM with nitrous. No problems.
Old 09-21-2004 | 03:33 PM
  #24  
357Silverado's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Default

Does anyone know if the LT4 km would work in a 96-98 model vortec truck? I am running a LT4 hot cam in my 96 model vortec 350 and I have been getting some misfire codes which I thought might be caused by the lope from the cam.
Old 09-21-2004 | 03:34 PM
  #25  
SAPPER's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,588
Likes: 263
From: Halfway back on the Highway to Hell...again!
Default

The best route to take is be safe not sorry. Since the LT1's don't have DIS, unless you installed it, Run a igniton box, (MSD Digtal 6), that has a built in retard and a separate window switch for the N2O activation. Now, I have a DIS on my LS1, it sucks not to be able to control the retard. But I don't have the juice on it....YET.
Better to spend $400 now than $4000 later. And the Imps D6 is awesome and I love it. Dial in what you want and Voila', it's ready. rev limiter, retard when the juice is activated at 3k-6200 and pulls 4* of timing.
Just some friendly advice.
Old 03-17-2010 | 03:17 PM
  #26  
scarfache's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: Buffalo, NY
Default

Do the 1993's with the old ECM have a knock module? If so, will the LT4 one work? I have the LT4 Hot Cam Kit but I don't think anything PC wise was touched from the prev owner.
Old 03-17-2010 | 04:35 PM
  #27  
mpcv2000's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
From: Montreal,Canada
Default

Interesting subject.
So if I understand clearly you can swap the module behind a regular LT1 PCM ( OBDI if that matter ) for a LT4 module and it can help ?
I have a hot cam from GM with some 1.6RR and the valvetrain is pretty noisy so I may be getting some false knock from my setup ?
Do you need to have a new tune on the car or just swap it and go ?

I thought you guys were talking about the knock sensor on the block itself.
Old 03-17-2010 | 04:47 PM
  #28  
djjab57's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,496
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

If you get a tune you dont really need one as it can be corrected with the tune
Old 03-17-2010 | 05:39 PM
  #29  
z_speedfreak's Avatar
TECH Addict

iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,123
Likes: 0
From: limbo
Default

x2 both of you guys should get a tune since your not running the stock cam anyways, besides that GM stopped making LT4 KM so you have to do some searching for 1, last I knew the ws6 store has some left
Old 03-17-2010 | 06:28 PM
  #30  
spudnick3119's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 313
Likes: 5
From: Eastern PA
Default

Originally Posted by djjab57
If you get a tune you dont really need one as it can be corrected with the tune
That's not necessarily true. The tune will only lower the knock values stored by the PCM (max knock at rpms, %knock removed, %knock added, etc...), not change what the KM is listening for. The LT4 KM looks for different kinds of "knock" (due to the LT4's rockers), nothing is changed in the PCM by swapping out knock modules.

The knock module will also only benefit you if you are getting knock. If you are not getting any knock and the pcm is not pulling timing, you will see a 0.0% power increase. The only way to determine if you are getting knock is to hook up a scanner (Datamaster, Freescan, etc...) and confirm.
Old 03-17-2010 | 06:50 PM
  #31  
kaganader's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
From: East Meadow, NY
Default

plus the LT4 knock sensor is discontinued
Old 03-17-2010 | 06:51 PM
  #32  
djjab57's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,496
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

I didnt say it was the smartest thing to do but a lot of people just tune it completely out
Old 03-17-2010 | 06:52 PM
  #33  
djjab57's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,496
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

Originally Posted by kaganader
plus the LT4 knock sensor is discontinued
This i know as i am the one who started the thread
Old 03-17-2010 | 06:53 PM
  #34  
kaganader's Avatar
Launching!
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 216
Likes: 0
From: East Meadow, NY
Default

Originally Posted by djjab57
This i know as i am the one who started the thread
haha just thought ill share the knowledge for whoever brought this back from the dead
Old 03-17-2010 | 06:57 PM
  #35  
djjab57's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,496
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Default

LOL i bumped my old thread
Old 03-17-2010 | 07:06 PM
  #36  
mpcv2000's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
From: Montreal,Canada
Default

Originally Posted by z_speedfreak
x2 both of you guys should get a tune since your not running the stock cam anyways
In my case I do have a tune , the LT1 is in a 89 Turbo II Mazda.

Originally Posted by kaganader
plus the LT4 knock sensor is discontinued
I realized that today.

Originally Posted by kaganader
haha just thought ill share the knowledge for whoever brought this back from the dead
I just noticed the date is was started.

Originally Posted by djjab57
LOL i bumped my old thread
Still good information tho.
Old 04-26-2010 | 10:28 PM
  #37  
coop875's Avatar
Staging Lane
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Default

goin for 110 on ws6 store
Old 04-26-2010 | 10:45 PM
  #38  
1961ba427's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,909
Likes: 0
From: Milledgeville, GA
Default

Originally Posted by coop875
goin for 110 on ws6 store
Yes!! Very good information. I opened up the PCM on my 97 yesterday to install LT4 km I bought about 3 years ago (to go in a 96 Formula I bought not running and STILL isn't running). Well I got the cover off and there was already one installed. I was thinking about selling the new one and just getting one later when I finally (hopefully) get the 96 running, but if it's discontinued I will hold on to it. Wish I had bought a pile of them.
Old 04-26-2010 | 11:08 PM
  #39  
1961ba427's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,909
Likes: 0
From: Milledgeville, GA
Default

Summit says they have them for $75.95 and it can ship tomorrow. I bet they won't last long.
Old 04-27-2010 | 12:02 AM
  #40  
shbox's Avatar
TECH Veteran
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,128
Likes: 56
From: Little Rock, AR
Default

The LT4 KM is not discontinued. It was on national back order for a little while.


Quick Reply: LT4 Knock Module



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:49 AM.