acammer

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I wouldn't argue for a second that the build is far from optimized, even the OP notes long tubes, cutout, gears and stall are in the works. But I think its a stretch to say the combination of mods present, all running right, should actually run just a slow as a stone stock car. If the car was running mid 13's at 106mph, you could easily point the finger at a weak launch, poor gearing and less than optimum tune and that would be reasonable. I just don't see this combination running as poor as a stocker unless there is something else wrong.

OP - what was the DA? Shift points? What kinda RPM were you seeing at the strip? Make any other passes, and if so, what did those slips look like?

orange94z28

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it was shifting at around 6k and the 1st run i ran REALLY bad high 14 @ 94mph 2.2 60' 9.67 1/8 @75. 2nd run i ran the 14.0 And the last run i ran a 14.21@96 2.1 60' 9.11 1/8@77.62. Times definatly show that it was the first time ever racing.

acammer

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Hmm. Don't sweat the times at all, we all had our first time racing. Definitely need to turn that thing faster than 6k to take advantage of the heads/cam - what kind of rev limit did you get with the tune? You're consistently only picking up 19mph in the back half - even if you're short shifting a bit that seems really low, even excusing the stock gears and converter. A good running bolt on car should pick up 22+ mph in the back half, and you're beyond bolt-ons. I agree 100% with Wicked94Z that you're setup is holding you back, but I have a hard time reconciling that it would cost you that much. Once you go gears, converter and long tubes with a dump you'll really start using everything on the table.

Any idea what the DA was? I wouldn't think it would be all that high this time of year in Virgina.

orange94z28

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I dont know what the DA was. Ill have to check what the rev limit was set at And i knew the first time would be the bad but i was atleast shooting for 13s. I felt a little better after i picked up about a second between 2 runs. Maybe it will just take some track time to run what it should as i get used to the car... But like i said stall, gears, and longtubes are next on the list. I bought a cutout when i went to the track so maybe ill pick up a little from that ive read the flowmaster doest flow good.

ThoR294

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flowmasters suck... also stall and gears are really killing you. autos are such dogs without that stuff... hell I did 13.6 with a couple of silly mods (short throw, flowmaster). granted, that was at Etown which is like sea level haha

dubga

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You should easily be doing much better than that. My pig-heavy vert ran 13.99 at 99 with A4 and 2.73 gears and a full tank of gas. Other than cai and catback, it is stock. Never even had the valve covers lifted.

I managed to get a best 60' of 2.01 with off-brand street tires. Of course, people were using the track to get ready for the gatornationals that night, so I think the track was coated in super glue. Best I have gotten since that night was 14.1 with a 2.12 60'. But yeah, you are leaving a lot of power either under the hood or in streaks on the track.

Nastyc4

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lol e.t experts !! e.t SUCKS. It's BS. look at his mph and wtf with those mods he SHOULD NOT be running 100 mph. I saw a STOCK 97 z28 along side my brothers new 97 ss run 100 mph. I ran a 15.5 @ 127.8 mph anyone care to explain that ?

My guesses are:

compression error
cam installed wrong
Needs a tune

RealQuick

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I say forget spending money on LT's.

Get the tune done (verify it with a dyno tune - or street tune with WB). Get a nice stall (3200-3600 somewhere in that area), and get some gear... 3.73's would be nice for a driver.

You should be able to trap 110-112mph with the shorties...

orange94z28

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ill try and make it to some other tracks to see if i can get better. And i have read that no stall/gear really kills an auto but i would think it would run alot better. I think it either i havent gotten enough exsperience racing and/or not getting the rpm's up quick enough. And i also was on 3/4 tank of fuel since i didnt plan on racing it and i already filled it up a day or two before i decided.

sepno77

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It wouldn't matter if you run a 12.9 at 100mph that wouldn't be impressive either. Your dam MPH is down. If you put your car on a dyno I would put money on it that you wouldn't brake 300rwhp

acammer

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Agreed, 100%, as I've been saying all along, MPH that low, with that little pickup on the back half is more than a stall/gears issue. If all the basics check out with fuel pressure, knock, timing, then I'd get on a dyno and dial things in. There is no reason you should run slower than my stock 'vert with full bolt on's/cam.

OddballLt1

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Ill help you out..

First, the stock converter needs to go. For your setup Id look at anything from a 3600-4000 stall to make your good gains.

Next, swap to 3.73+ gear, this helps to get in your powerband quicker and stay there.

A set of LT's will make a big difference as well, the shorties are killing your midrange.

Finally, get a set of DRs to cut that 60".

With the new stall, gears LT's and tires, you should be in the mid-high 11's easy, barring some abnormal issue.

transam5.7lt1

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If its an automatic, why are you shifting manually?

acammer

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Where do you people get off thinking that his car, trapping 99-100 mph, only picking up 19mph in the back half, as it sits now, isn't an abnormal issue. All the converter and gear in the world isn't going to matter if the car's down on power.

As its been stated before, ET doesn't mean jack, but that MPH is telling you something - your not making the power you should be.

z_speedfreak

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agreed, some things not right..

WS Sick

Your car is starting off in each gear well below where it makes any kind of power, Put it above 3500 in each gear and i guarantee that you will pick up 6 to 10 mph at the end.
That cam and 3.23 gears is like putting a trailer behind the thing that weighs a ton.

whytryz28

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lol

orange94z28

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Thats what i was trying to ask ealier. By the time my RPM's get up to where it will will make the most power its too late.

acammer

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Definitely gives lots of explanation to your weak 1/8 mile times, I know the 1-2 shift on these are ridiculous, I've had a few 700R4 cars and you've really gotta pull each gear deep so that you don't fall off. Still, if you're shifting at 6000rpm (Should probably be closer to 6500 with the auto), even with a stock stall, you're not going to drift under 3500rpm on the 1-2 shift, and the 2-3 isn't nearly as bad.

It still doesn't explain away the really low trap speed - in the back half your not in subject to the big cam/stock stall fail that you're getting off the line, and the car should be picking up more than it is. You shouldn't be making stock or less than stock power in the 4000rpm+ range that you're seeing on the back half of the track, but your numbers say you are.

orange94z28

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well i wasnt manually shifting it either i left it in drive and let it go so maybe that hurt me...