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Old May 26, 2010 | 10:00 PM
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good luck guys.....make it happen
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Old May 27, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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GMHTP is on Tech (here) as well. Maybe just a PM to them and a link can help. The problem is, companies will want to see guaranteed pay. Word of mouth at the events is one of the easiest ways to get it done, but they need proof that people will buy them and have the money for them.

I know that the desire is there, but there has to be some other sort of guarantee.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by John@Scoggin
GMHTP is on Tech (here) as well. Maybe just a PM to them and a link can help. The problem is, companies will want to see guaranteed pay. Word of mouth at the events is one of the easiest ways to get it done, but they need proof that people will buy them and have the money for them.

I know that the desire is there, but there has to be some other sort of guarantee.
Thats why I said a pre-order system needs to be setup. Get the orders pre-paid, then show GM the money is there for the go-ahead. Set a goal of 50 blocks and have GM get pricing. Then advertise the prices and take pre-orders for a 50 minimum.

Pricing should be done first.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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Well, I am not 100% sure that GM would still do it then. As The Boss here said, GM has no desire now to do that. They are wholly focused on the LS series now and the times they are going through and the future of newer engine designs. It is not to say that they wont do it ever, but GM just does not give free reign over things anymore.

Also, from what I hear, there still was interest in the other aftermarket block manuf in doing them, but a minimum order would be over 50. More in the 100 range.

I know the desire is there, and the need/want, but is it enough for 100 block min order? Let me see if we can talk directly to some of the other guys in the same dept at a few of the places you referenced Tony and I will try to get back to you sometime this next week.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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I seen the GM commercial, said they paid back there government loan with interest and are as good as ever.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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No comment on that situation.

The problem is most people see this as being so easy and easy for GM to make money on, so they should do it. In reality, it is easier to get an aftermarket company to bite than GM, even though GM originally gave the green light to make the parts in the first place.

The purpose of me and SD getting into this conversation in the first place it to help renew some interest in the LT world. BUT, that is not a promise that we can get a single thing to happen from GM. Nor is it a promise that any of the other companies that were somewhat interested in this niche will be again. It is an offering to check into (so far) this situation which appears to have garnered the biggest amount of interest lately. All of the rest of the parts are there for killer power, you just need the ability to make more cubes without selling body parts to fund it.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by John@Scoggin
Well, I am not 100% sure that GM would still do it then. As The Boss here said, GM has no desire now to do that. They are wholly focused on the LS series now and the times they are going through and the future of newer engine designs. It is not to say that they wont do it ever, but GM just does not give free reign over things anymore.

Also, from what I hear, there still was interest in the other aftermarket block manuf in doing them, but a minimum order would be over 50. More in the 100 range.

I know the desire is there, and the need/want, but is it enough for 100 block min order? Let me see if we can talk directly to some of the other guys in the same dept at a few of the places you referenced Tony and I will try to get back to you sometime this next week.
Then why doesn't GM release the tools/dies for the block?
If they won't sell them, then that's messed up.
'We have no interest in making them anymore, and no one else can either...'
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Old May 27, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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That is the $64,000 question.

Maybe we will find out.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Pricing would be real nice to see.

If GM won't make them maybe the place storing the dies can.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 12:16 PM
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I would also love to see what type of pricing we are looking at. I want one of these blocks!
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Old May 27, 2010 | 12:30 PM
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AC you can have one LOL here you go

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Old May 27, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by djjab57
AC you can have one LOL here you go

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
^^^LOL. I should be the first bidder...just so I can say I bidded on it and lost, cause I know it will sell for more than 3000.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
^^^LOL. I should be the first bidder...just so I can say I bidded on it and lost, cause I know it will sell for more than 3000.
In case it doesn't I hope you're ready to drop 3 stacks on it!
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Old May 27, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 1badzee
In case it doesn't I hope you're ready to drop 3 stacks on it!
LOL, not really. I just finished assembling my LS3:

stock 6.2 bottom end
custom Pat G blower cam
ARP head studs
LS9 head gaskets
stock LS3 heads w/ Patriot Extreme dual valve springs
stock LS3 intake
Holley 90mm cable TB
Kooks 1 7/8"x2" stepped headers
Procharger D1SC (going for ~7-8 psi)

We'll see what she puts down.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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If they won't make them and they wont sell them pay someone to steal the blue prints lol.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ss.slp.ls1
LOL, not really. I just finished assembling my LS3:

stock 6.2 bottom end
custom Pat G blower cam
ARP head studs
LS9 head gaskets
stock LS3 heads w/ Patriot Extreme dual valve springs
stock LS3 intake
Holley 90mm cable TB
Kooks 1 7/8"x2" stepped headers
Procharger D1SC (going for ~7-8 psi)

We'll see what she puts down.
Sounds like a stout combo. Did you ditch the LT1?!
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Old May 27, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 1badzee
Sounds like a stout combo. Did you ditch the LT1?!
I'm parting it out right now. Still have to sell the cam, the TB, the T56, and the long block.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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even a general directional would help... is this going to be a 1500 prepay or a 3000 pre-pay...
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Old May 27, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by djjab57
AC you can have one LOL here you go

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
lol I dont have that kinda coin to spend but I do want it!!!
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i really wish gm would just sell the blue print to another company so i can start building this beast
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