about to pull the trigger on the S60....
Again this is just my opinion and what I would do but I'm cheap and really like being different....just me though....Kinda a nice little alternative option....
think about what would cause a rearend to pick up gear noise after a few hard launches. Then think about what a 10 bolt, 12 bolt, s-60, and 8.8 all share in common. That's why I went with a 9"...
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The S60 is more efficent than both the 12 bolt and the 9" rear. So its a trade off in the S60 vs 9" debate. Either you get a heavier rear that will put more HP to the ground, or a lighter rear that will rob more HP.
FWIW I'm not stating one is better than the other, just adding something for the OP to think about.
FWIW I'm not stating one is better than the other, just adding something for the OP to think about.
The S60 is more efficent than both the 12 bolt and the 9" rear. So its a trade off in the S60 vs 9" debate. Either you get a heavier rear that will put more HP to the ground, or a lighter rear that will rob more HP.
FWIW I'm not stating one is better than the other, just adding something for the OP to think about.
FWIW I'm not stating one is better than the other, just adding something for the OP to think about.
Check this comparison out that GM High-Tech did.
http://shop.brutespeed.com/Moser-Eng...ar-Ends_c4.htm
Here is a link to my Moser prices. Bob
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Check this comparison out that GM High-Tech did.
http://shop.brutespeed.com/Moser-Eng...ar-Ends_c4.htm
Here is a link to my Moser prices. Bob
Check this comparison out that GM High-Tech did.
http://shop.brutespeed.com/Moser-Eng...ar-Ends_c4.htm
Here is a link to my Moser prices. Bob
Good info on the spooled rear end for street/track. I am going to drive mine maybe 3 times a week, so I might go with the s60 with spool. I am willing to bet thew car will get less than 5k-7k a year. This is my non daily driven car, so it would be better I think.
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Spool would be a perfect choice for you.
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Yes, the 12 bolt has the least power loss compared to the 9 incher and S60. This chart shows the differances in 20 HP steps. I think the total differances are 5 HP.
The 9 inch rear has an additional pinion support bearing on the rear end of the pinion shaft.
The 9 inch rear has an additional pinion support bearing on the rear end of the pinion shaft.
not trying to be an A$$ but when did this thread turn into 9 in and 8.8 or what rear is more efficient. I wanted to hear what people with S60s choose and what they needed to install
ok I drive the car maybe 3K a year but is a spool really gonna be a pain to drive. never driven or drove in a car that had a spool but "heard" its a pain and normal 2 point turns end up being 5 point turns to get into parking spots or out of tight places
its not a pro street car but want reliable traction when at the track
main goal isn't weight more like cost and the ability to race without a scare everytime im at the staring line
ok I drive the car maybe 3K a year but is a spool really gonna be a pain to drive. never driven or drove in a car that had a spool but "heard" its a pain and normal 2 point turns end up being 5 point turns to get into parking spots or out of tight places
its not a pro street car but want reliable traction when at the track
main goal isn't weight more like cost and the ability to race without a scare everytime im at the staring line
not trying to be an A$$ but when did this thread turn into 9 in and 8.8 or what rear is more efficient. I wanted to hear what people with S60s choose and what they needed to install
ok I drive the car maybe 3K a year but is a spool really gonna be a pain to drive. never driven or drove in a car that had a spool but "heard" its a pain and normal 2 point turns end up being 5 point turns to get into parking spots or out of tight places
its not a pro street car but want reliable traction when at the track
main goal isn't weight more like cost and the ability to race without a scare everytime im at the staring line
ok I drive the car maybe 3K a year but is a spool really gonna be a pain to drive. never driven or drove in a car that had a spool but "heard" its a pain and normal 2 point turns end up being 5 point turns to get into parking spots or out of tight places
its not a pro street car but want reliable traction when at the track
main goal isn't weight more like cost and the ability to race without a scare everytime im at the staring line
A spool isn't bad on the street at all if you're an automatic. 6-speed guys have a bit more difficulty, but overall it's not bad.
"Reliable traction" comes from suspension, gearing, tire choice, and drivetrain, not the rear axle type. Traction doesn't care what type of rear you have - just as long as it doesn't break.
Naaa, you’re not being an ***, quite right, you asked about the S60. It’ll be the strongest rear you can put in these cars. And probably the least expensive.
I think a few of us were just trying to point out that it’s your heaviest choice and you may not need it as your stated power level.
I think a few of us were just trying to point out that it’s your heaviest choice and you may not need it as your stated power level.
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Check this comparison out that GM High-Tech did.
http://shop.brutespeed.com/Moser-Eng...ar-Ends_c4.htm
Here is a link to my Moser prices. Bob
Check this comparison out that GM High-Tech did.
http://shop.brutespeed.com/Moser-Eng...ar-Ends_c4.htm
Here is a link to my Moser prices. Bob
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That GM High Tech article is making one VERY big mistake. People need to understand how easy it is to spin ANY rear end after it has 50,000+ miles on it. The car that went from a 10-bolt to an S60 might have had a "tighter" rear in it than the second car that went from a 10-bolt to a moser 9. If you go from a well worn rear end to a brand new rear end, you will lose some hp. If they would have done a back-to-back from the S60 to the Moser 9 then it would be valid. When we took my 10-bolt out (110,000 miles on it) you could spin it with one hand quite easily.
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Like I said mine was well under $2K with added options. You will not break a Dana60 unless you are running a 550+ inch motor on nitro.
geting a spool is sounding pretty good to me right now as the car is only driven on very nice days and feel if I never get a spool then I'll never know what I am missing or wish I missed LOL
As for street driving will the spool eat up the axles or will the tires just slip... need a more in depth description of driving with a spool
I have talked to guys with lockers and stick they say its intresting when racing and shifting as the locker unlocks in between shifting
As for street driving will the spool eat up the axles or will the tires just slip... need a more in depth description of driving with a spool
I have talked to guys with lockers and stick they say its intresting when racing and shifting as the locker unlocks in between shifting
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The spool eats up tires not hard parts. Its like a locker as both axels turn at the same time all the time, it doesn't have a preference for load.
Spooled MWC 9" is looking like a good option, get the rear backbrace welded up and you have a bulletproof rearend.
Spooled MWC 9" is looking like a good option, get the rear backbrace welded up and you have a bulletproof rearend.
And the 9in is offset to the side which will put the torque arm closer to the tunnel. I have a friend that got the MWC 9" and had nothing but problems which aren't completely resolved currently whether on his end or MWC end
Wait, you want your TQ arm on your trans shaft vs your tunnel? The 9" mount is a PITA from what ive read, you have to clearance your body for the upper part of the mount on the center section.