SS RRR

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... and that's it, right? Lol... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...


How much did you spend on that engine again?

Green3spd

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I love when people say, "it runs good for an LT1"

happysem

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I don't want to call you out, but I remember reading what all was done to that car, yes its "stock" but weren't you allowed to regrind the cam for something?

I guess I should have specified, my generalization was to 95% of the owners of modded cars, and more specifically, street cars lol.

Not people who had more in their "stock" engines than my car is worth.

NewOrleansLT1

I am sick of this LT1 vs. LS1 BULLSHIT! We need to race, shake hands, and respect each others cars... As long as we run the number we're satisfied with, F what engine it took to get there...

96lt1m6

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Lt1/Lt4 section
If you wish to talk Ls1 go to the
Ls1,Ls2,Ls3,Ls6,Ls7,L99,Lq9and Lq4 section.

Bowtie Boy

Cuz I walk bolt on LS1s like nothing in my untuned Z with paper air filter, shift kit and tornado fuel saver.

4K+Converter

I love these "LT1s are better than LS1s" and "LS1s stomp LT1s" threads!

Luckily the answer is simple: "Small blocks are for boys."

I'll gain a couple extra hundred pounds, the extra cubes more than off set the weight gain.

noice

As far as I'm concerned without the LT1 the LS1 engines wouldn't be as good as they are. The Optispark was the stepping stone between traditional distributors and the coil-on-plug systems we have today.

Great Opti Article.
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ing/index.html

If I run across a local LS1 engine for cheap I'll tear it apart and upgrade it, but so far I've come across SBC engines complete for $100 bucks and LT1 engines $300 bucks I usually don't pass them up.

Probably the biggest insult is when people hear my 388 LT1 engine in my Camaro and come up to me really interested and ask if it is a LS1. When I tell them it is a LT1 they turn around and walk away totally uninterested, kind of feels like a punch in the dick.

As others have said at this point I've spent so much on an LT1 engine that to get where I'm at with an LS1 would involve spending a bit as well.

Yea this part sucks. I mean Dart teased us with an aftermarket block, but they backed out, I never really thought they would get enough interest to make it anyways. LS1 have plenty of nice blocks to choose from.



I run some Dart Pro 1 heads, I paid dearly for a custom intake manifold to match it.

idformula

ive been thinking of doing the same thing with mine, but with a turbo'd 396 motor, or I just want to go with a nice h/c/i ls3, it really depends what day you talk to me i guess. That is one thing I like about these f-bodies, you can do so much to them, so many options for them, I'm not used to that with a newer car

nate0031

I feel less inteligent after reading this thread. It's just like a F-Body vs Mustang thread, except here we are all fans of the same platform (4th gen F-Body). Sooner or later all will have to accept that there is not one perfect platform. People will also have to accept that other people have opinions, and ergo make their choices based on their personal preferances. I love all F-Bodies as long as it has a V8, some prefer V6s, That doesn't really matter to me nor bother me. To each man his own. I respect any car that goes fast down the track, when all is said and done, thats what matters.
However, I would enjoy a level headed conversation over the pro's and con's of both engines.

hitmanws6

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^^Seriously. This topic has been beaten to death. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Both can be built right and wrong for around the same amount of money. If you need to convince yourself to keep your LT motor maybe you should just switch over. And as stated numbers dont mean ****. I know my friends LS1 TA is making well over 400/360 on the dyno, but is running 13s in the 1/4.

joelster

I've got to apologize here. Honestly, I get along in real life with just about anyone regardless of what the hell they drive. Me and you would shoot the **** at the track or car show all day long. I can respect any ride, but from what i've seen the majority of the LSx cars in my area that are modded don't run to their potential at all. Sure there are a few performers here and there, but most are owned by younger guys who simply don't have the experience or the money to set the entire car up and apply all the power they have. They don't want to spend money on suspension or a rear end or a clutch or a tranny. They want a t-rex, cheap headers a lid and a tune, and that's it. Someone made a post earlier and said that it isn't a domestic vs import battle, it's more like brother vs brother and that is so true with this thread. I like the LSx motor, but for me to switch right now, i'd have a lot of people in my area saying "I told you so", and i'm not done with my LT1 just yet.

happysem

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Thats right!

Keep the LT1 in spite of everyone else, now it will be sure to never break down!

GIZMO

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What's funny about this is that the motor that is in the car at the moment is the same one that has been in the car for the last two years. It was put together with almost all used parts. The heads were done by my friend and I at his home shop and they will pass tech. The short block has forged Eagle rods and Ross stock replacement flat top pistons that meet NHRA weight requirements. The cam cost $300.00 and uses modified stock lifters and modified stock rockers (7/16" studs). I have been as fast with a stock rotating assembly. It just didn't last!

I race the LTX platform, because that's what came in my car. It's easy to make HP and takes very little maintenance.

SS RRR

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Your opinion? It's a dumb one. As stated, check out the signature of the OP who made that thread. It was not done with a C5R block. It was done w/ a L92 block. It's basically the equivalent, but is not mini-tubbed and was running a 275 drag radial. Wayne (aka ATVRacer) was running 9's w/ an iron block and 275 Drag Radial and won the pump gas drags a few years ago. Another friend of mine is running a turbo car and ran 9.0 @ 156 with an iron block last Friday night.


The way I understand it is there is a huge amount of money in that engine and chassis. Very poor example and bullshit to claim the pic can only be credited to stock heads and a larger profile cam.

You know what's funny about this... You would think if LSx owners gave a **** or felt threatened by the LTx they'd make their way to this thread. They never do. This crap is always comical to read. It's a great example between the internet and reality.

97lt1z28

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would love a LSX but i have to agree that i am getting deap into the lt1 and with limited people wanting to buy a "outdated" motor it would cost way to much to start over. once this new motor blows i could see doing a LS though.

96redcamaro

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I would love an LSX platform as well. but I have already gone to far with my car. rear end, chassis, suspension, etc. there is more to a car than just a motor. maybe one day i will put a LS3 or something in my current car. but until then my 383 if fast enough.

nate0031

Our time would be much better spent smoking ricers at the track than debating which chevy smallblock is better than the other chevy smallblock. When it comes down to it, the chevy smallblock has been reguarded as a staple of performance since before I was born.

AChotrod

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How about we actually compare blocks that came in our cars??

Tom573

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My '98 m6 cost me all of $3,300 and $7 to fix the broken pushrod. It had 135k on the clock though. But it was a stock unmolested fbody. I have seen them on craigslist for even less than that sometimes. Since everyone seems to be a mechanic on here I dont see why price is even an arguement.

After i did my research, I decided to pick up the car I did to make a decent amount of power and remain smog legal. If you are picking up a project car, the prices are so close between the two platforms that it should not be a deciding factor. Both of these cars have their merits.