Why are we still holding on to these dinosaurs?
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I guess I should have specified, my generalization was to 95% of the owners of modded cars, and more specifically, street cars lol.
Not people who had more in their "stock" engines than my car is worth.
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I am sick of this LT1 vs. LS1 BULLSHIT! We need to race, shake hands, and respect each others cars... As long as we run the number we're satisfied with, F what engine it took to get there...
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I love these "LT1s are better than LS1s" and "LS1s stomp LT1s" threads!
Luckily the answer is simple: "Small blocks are for boys."
I'll gain a couple extra hundred pounds, the extra cubes more than off set the weight gain.
Luckily the answer is simple: "Small blocks are for boys."
I'll gain a couple extra hundred pounds, the extra cubes more than off set the weight gain.
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As far as I'm concerned without the LT1 the LS1 engines wouldn't be as good as they are. The Optispark was the stepping stone between traditional distributors and the coil-on-plug systems we have today.
Great Opti Article.
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ing/index.html
If I run across a local LS1 engine for cheap I'll tear it apart and upgrade it, but so far I've come across SBC engines complete for $100 bucks and LT1 engines $300 bucks I usually don't pass them up.
Probably the biggest insult is when people hear my 388 LT1 engine in my Camaro and come up to me really interested and ask if it is a LS1. When I tell them it is a LT1 they turn around and walk away totally uninterested, kind of feels like a punch in the dick.
As others have said at this point I've spent so much on an LT1 engine that to get where I'm at with an LS1 would involve spending a bit as well.
Yea this part sucks. I mean Dart teased us with an aftermarket block, but they backed out, I never really thought they would get enough interest to make it anyways. LS1 have plenty of nice blocks to choose from.
I run some Dart Pro 1 heads, I paid dearly for a custom intake manifold to match it.
Great Opti Article.
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...ing/index.html
If I run across a local LS1 engine for cheap I'll tear it apart and upgrade it, but so far I've come across SBC engines complete for $100 bucks and LT1 engines $300 bucks I usually don't pass them up.
Probably the biggest insult is when people hear my 388 LT1 engine in my Camaro and come up to me really interested and ask if it is a LS1. When I tell them it is a LT1 they turn around and walk away totally uninterested, kind of feels like a punch in the dick.
As others have said at this point I've spent so much on an LT1 engine that to get where I'm at with an LS1 would involve spending a bit as well.
The ls1 has gotten far better aftermarket support than the lt1 ever did. The heads on my lt1 were done by ARE 10 years ago. They are no longer around. Besides them and Lingenfelter, there were probably only a handful of lt1 specialty shops around.. The ls1s were getting aftermarket attention almost from day 1.
Very true, there is not a whole lot for the LT motors in the aftermarket. But there are more than 2 companies out there. Not saying they aren't good but when is the last time anyone did an LT4 setup? Or Dart/Trickflow? Id just like to see something other than the normal.
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ive been thinking of doing the same thing with mine, but with a turbo'd 396 motor, or I just want to go with a nice h/c/i ls3, it really depends what day you talk to me i guess. That is one thing I like about these f-bodies, you can do so much to them, so many options for them, I'm not used to that with a newer car
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I feel less inteligent after reading this thread. It's just like a F-Body vs Mustang thread, except here we are all fans of the same platform (4th gen F-Body). Sooner or later all will have to accept that there is not one perfect platform. People will also have to accept that other people have opinions, and ergo make their choices based on their personal preferances. I love all F-Bodies as long as it has a V8, some prefer V6s, That doesn't really matter to me nor bother me. To each man his own. I respect any car that goes fast down the track, when all is said and done, thats what matters.
However, I would enjoy a level headed conversation over the pro's and con's of both engines.
However, I would enjoy a level headed conversation over the pro's and con's of both engines.
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^^Seriously. This topic has been beaten to death. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Both can be built right and wrong for around the same amount of money. If you need to convince yourself to keep your LT motor maybe you should just switch over. And as stated numbers dont mean ****. I know my friends LS1 TA is making well over 400/360 on the dyno, but is running 13s in the 1/4.
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I've got to apologize here. Honestly, I get along in real life with just about anyone regardless of what the hell they drive. Me and you would shoot the **** at the track or car show all day long. I can respect any ride, but from what i've seen the majority of the LSx cars in my area that are modded don't run to their potential at all. Sure there are a few performers here and there, but most are owned by younger guys who simply don't have the experience or the money to set the entire car up and apply all the power they have. They don't want to spend money on suspension or a rear end or a clutch or a tranny. They want a t-rex, cheap headers a lid and a tune, and that's it. Someone made a post earlier and said that it isn't a domestic vs import battle, it's more like brother vs brother and that is so true with this thread. I like the LSx motor, but for me to switch right now, i'd have a lot of people in my area saying "I told you so", and i'm not done with my LT1 just yet.
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I don't want to call you out, but I remember reading what all was done to that car, yes its "stock" but weren't you allowed to regrind the cam for something?
I guess I should have specified, my generalization was to 95% of the owners of modded cars, and more specifically, street cars lol.
Not people who had more in their "stock" engines than my car is worth.
I guess I should have specified, my generalization was to 95% of the owners of modded cars, and more specifically, street cars lol.
Not people who had more in their "stock" engines than my car is worth.
I race the LTX platform, because that's what came in my car. It's easy to make HP and takes very little maintenance.
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I don't want to call you out, but I remember reading what all was done to that car, yes its "stock" but weren't you allowed to regrind the cam for something?
I guess I should have specified, my generalization was to 95% of the owners of modded cars, and more specifically, street cars lol.
Not people who had more in their "stock" engines than my car is worth.
I guess I should have specified, my generalization was to 95% of the owners of modded cars, and more specifically, street cars lol.
Not people who had more in their "stock" engines than my car is worth.
You know what's funny about this... You would think if LSx owners gave a **** or felt threatened by the LTx they'd make their way to this thread. They never do. This crap is always comical to read. It's a great example between the internet and reality.
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would love a LSX but i have to agree that i am getting deap into the lt1 and with limited people wanting to buy a "outdated" motor it would cost way to much to start over. once this new motor blows i could see doing a LS though.
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I would love an LSX platform as well. but I have already gone to far with my car. rear end, chassis, suspension, etc. there is more to a car than just a motor. maybe one day i will put a LS3 or something in my current car. but until then my 383 if fast enough.
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Our time would be much better spent smoking ricers at the track than debating which chevy smallblock is better than the other chevy smallblock. When it comes down to it, the chevy smallblock has been reguarded as a staple of performance since before I was born.
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After i did my research, I decided to pick up the car I did to make a decent amount of power and remain smog legal. If you are picking up a project car, the prices are so close between the two platforms that it should not be a deciding factor. Both of these cars have their merits.