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Old 11-22-2010, 08:19 PM
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Default Whats it gonna take to get into the 12s

right now the best i have run is 13.5 @ 103, with a 2.1 60ft.(untuned) Over the winter i was going to focus on some small suspension things, LCA's as well as subframe connectors, and a set of DRs for next spring. the car went 13.6 @ 101 before the LTs and ORY, so i think it has 13.4s in it with the full exhaust, if i can hook.

So my question is what is it gonna take for me to get into the high 12s with bolt ons. thats all i really want to do with the car for now; high 12 bolt on lt1. What other mods should i look into to go along with the mods in my sig

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Tune, gears, stall, good tires, youll hit 12.8
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What bufmatmuslepants said, stall and gears and work on your 60ft time try to get 1.9 or better.

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Drop some weight.
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Suspension work and good tires will get that 60 foot down, a little weight reduction wouldn't help.
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
Suspension work and good tires will get that 60 foot down, a little weight reduction wouldn't help.
WTF??? ANY weight reduction will help...DUH
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
Suspension work and good tires will get that 60 foot down, a little weight reduction wouldn't help.
I didn't say a little. Take anything out of the car you don't need (back seat, carpet insulation, a/c, emissions, spare tire, jack, rear sub, etc.) I've dropped about 200 lbs of stuff I don't need out of my dd.
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ryan listen up lol.........that car will benefit HUGE from a tune I've seen the car run since the headers the tune is way off........also stick like a 3000 converter in it with a set of drag radials and you'll be damnnn close if not there
and you dont need aftermarket LCA's lets just weld on the relocation brackets and thats all you need we can adjust the LCA angle from there and the cars stock ride height.......at this point theres no need for aftermarket LCA's
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Originally Posted by bufmatmuslepants
Tune, gears, stall, good tires, youll hit 12.8
All you need is mid 1.7x 60'.
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Originally Posted by quik95lt1
ryan listen up lol.........that car will benefit HUGE from a tune I've seen the car run since the headers the tune is way off........also stick like a 3000 converter in it with a set of drag radials and you'll be damnnn close if not there
and you dont need aftermarket LCA's lets just weld on the relocation brackets and thats all you need we can adjust the LCA angle from there and the cars stock ride height.......at this point theres no need for aftermarket LCA's
yea mike prob around next spring ill have u try to tune it. i should of asked u if u had any suspension stuff you were getting rid of
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A tune for sure. That 125bux will take you the longest way. Next would be tires, 2.1 60ft with an a4??? Dude c' mon, you can do better than that. I pulled 2.1's on street tires when i was 16..... with an m6.

Tune, tires, stall. With those mods and remove all seats, jack&spare, front sway bar. you could go anywhere from 12.20-12.90 depending on your 60fts. If you pull a 1.59 60ft a 12.24 @ 108 could be possible. or something a lil slower.

you have a 3.23 car, so its not that bad gear wise. Id go for the tune, tire, stall route. You may be able to pull a 12.90 with a tune, tires, lca's tho....so....

The bad thing is you pulled a 2.1 60ft with 20rwhp less than you have now. And if you get a tune Id expect 13-14rwhp cuz you have LT headers that need the reprogramed PCM. Also better shifts, etc. So now you have to figure 30rwhp more. GL
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tune + DR's = 12 sec pass
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tires and the driver mod
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Like some people would say.....................Spray it
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Originally Posted by Smoke Em
yea mike prob around next spring ill have u try to tune it. i should of asked u if u had any suspension stuff you were getting rid of
try to tune it???? lol.....j/p.....yea ill get that thing perfect in about two shots.....MAF cars are easy.....i've seen the way the car is running now i can almost guarantee another 20rwhp from a tune over where it sits now.....as for suspension i dont have any stuff from my car but like i said get the LCA relocation brackets from BMR they're like $80 i think and be done wit it.....and we'll stick some drag bags in the sprigns for like $80....toss a set of MT ET radials on it and rip!!!

Originally Posted by CamaroRacing12
tune + DR's = 12 sec pass
Agreed..........ryan listen to tony ^ he knows his bolt on camaro stuff!!!

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tires and the driver mod
also agreed^....i can show u the right way to launch that auto ryan
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i know the car has better 60' in it, before the headers it was cutting consitent 2.0 60' on even worse street tires.

but with the headers on it i havent gotten it below a 2.1, but im not flooring it as soon as the light goes, im rolling on to it

tony, i would really like to see 12s without a stall
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I dont know why your scared to do a stall. If youve done headers or spark plugs, you can do a stall no problems. I did one for the first time, after i was done i wondered why i thought about wanting to pay someone to do it.

"get a good stall" - those words are really really easy to say, and really really hard to follow. money gets in the way, i wish i had done it. I used a crappy TCI3500 converter, its still holding up and working well, but i dont have the mental security as i would with a vigilante or yank stall converter.

you WILL see a 4-6 tenth reduction with a good stall. I saw half a second and i only spent 175$ on my stall. It works ok at the track but on the street a better converter would be ideal. I hear the yank ss3200 drives very very well on the street and you can still see that 4-6 tenth reduction.

Mix that with some good tires and your golden. Im not sure what answer your looking for as to how to hit 12's but ideally a stall converter is the best way to go. its easy to put in, just time consuming.

So a good stall and a tune, maybe some decent tires, you should be 12's no problem!
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Like some people would say.....................Spray it
Yes..
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First mod I ever did was put on nitrous in the first week of having my car. Bone stock, full weight. Put a slick on my a4 car. Ran race gas on a stock tune and let her rip. LEts just say it was faster than 12s
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
Suspension work and good tires will get that 60 foot down, a little weight reduction wouldn't help.
Originally Posted by moge11
WTF??? ANY weight reduction will help...DUH
Originally Posted by Phstratton
I didn't say a little. Take anything out of the car you don't need (back seat, carpet insulation, a/c, emissions, spare tire, jack, rear sub, etc.) I've dropped about 200 lbs of stuff I don't need out of my dd.
what I meant to say was "A little weight reduction wouldn't HURT." my bad guys...of course weight reduction always helps. Sorry fellas


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