I never mentioned anything regarding the "mod for mod" discussion. You just asked for some proof that 3.8s (outside of Buicks) could be built and run worth a ****. Well, here are some examples off an outdated list. If you want more, Google's only a click away.

As I'm sure the fastest LT1 times were a cheap affair to reach also.

Once again, money was never mentioned in this part. If the fastest LT1 numbers and times are going to be thrown around, then what's wrong with using the fastest 3.8 build as an example? This is just another example of a 3.8 that can run. Id' say it's fairly impressive for a custom sheetmetal intake, Holden lower intake, Intense Stage 4 heads and cam, with a stock bottom end.

 

this is getting more entertaining every time I look at it.

 

Now THIS is "lawl."

You are talking about supercharging an Lt1 which without building it's bottom end or it's auto tranny they will both blow, but you will put down the GPs trannys.

Sense. This makes none.

No wonder your car GP slow, with how you think I'm surprised you don't own a base model 18 second civic racecar.

 

My thoughts on that:
Most people don't mod them BECAUSE there's a V8 version. Also there's a stigma to the V6 cars because of that too. They get info bashed into their head that it's "only a v6" and that it'll never be fast, and let's face it. Most humans are stupid and believe what they are told. So a lot of them jump ship early.
With that site I linked you for GPs most guys on there no longer own a GP. They've all bought God's ***** (ls1/gto) and are strokin' their ******** to them now. So even on there you've got a smaller group.
And on top of that, most people don't buy a car and think turbo right off the bat, up until just now I didn't even know about a "mass produced" V6 f-body turbo kit. And to run really well, they'd be smart to swap to the L67 bottom end which again nobody wants to buy a car and do a motor swap right off the bat. They struggle with bolt ons until they give up and go V8.

I still stand by this:
LT1 = L67 < LS1
$ per $.

edit: also, the GP community is doing far more for the L36 than it seems the F-body community does. I don't know if they are tuning them better or what, but ZZP the "premier" GP company doesn't even support the f-body even though a lot of their stuff can easily be ported over. This is the company that I just found out FINALLY has the turbo kit for them and it's still in testing. Dunno. I just see a ton of misconceptions and ignorance for these cars/motors. But you do see that on any car board. Most are completely uneducated on any other car and think their car is the pinnacle of performance. Which again leads back to humans being stupid... especially in groups. Hell if 90% of the people in this thread actually read everything before commenting they'd learn a ton of things in this thread alone.

 

Wait... WTF does this mean?

 

It means the LSx was forged by god himself according to them and they jerk off to them. I thought is was clear enough? Maybe no.

 

Hmmmm... I mean, I own a GTO, and I, in no way, think this way. Hell, I mod my POS LT1 Z and leave the God's ***** mobile alone.

 

I'm not saying all are, I am saying everybody on the GP sites have this viagra hardon for the LSx for some reason.

 

Oh, gotcha. GTP owners are a breed of their own.

 

And why wouldn't they?

 

lol, hey guys no one has ever boosted a stock lt1 before.

 

Really dude? Really? I can't believe how inept some of you are.

I never said it's not been done, but look at the power they are putting down doing that. Use your brain. Maybe try reading the thread. Maybe shut up.

It's ASTOUNDING how many people don't read what's being said. (or lack the ability to understand I suppose)

 

Is it just me.... or is this thread a complete waste of space?

 

It had it's informative parts, but mostly a waste of space because the posters involved have very little to add being they are fools.

 

I figured it was more a waste that this is the LT1 section of the website and the OP was nothing at all to do with an LT1.

 

X2... not that I'm boosted or anything. Most people don't boost LT1 because the stock rings are weak, there are plenty of healthy boosted LT1s out there putting down some awesome numbers.

In general, yeah, it would have been pretty cool if the did put an MR90 3.8 in the '96 and '97 RS models. Originally, when I was looking to buy another F-Body back in '05, I wanted to buy an RS. But I couldn't find any nice ones, but after a lot of thought, and even if they had an MR90, I would have still bought a Z28. I guess that is one way to look at it. Maybe it wasn't cost effective to have out a Camaro coupe, an RS with a MR90, a Z28, and an SS all at the same time?!

 

Trying to get some more info for you guys, I found a turbo V6 firebird asked him about his build:

He says he hasn't even pulled a valve cover. These are his FULL MOD LIST. This is what they are capable of. That's a low 11 second car easy when set up... and he's on low boost. Just some more **** for your spaghetti.

 

You need to address those who mentioned the fastest LT1 rather than myself. That is not my point. What exactly am I supposed to get from that timeslip page because I'm still not convinced a mess of 12 second V6's are impressive. Your link doesn't prove they run worth a **** and your example of listing a single digit V6 has no merit on what I was saying. Do you want to argue semantics now?

 

ok and I paid $4400 for my 99 SS and it made 441/390 and i didnt have to do **** to it other then swap a clutch slave.

Sorry, your orginal thread was ok although it didnt belong in the lt1 area, would a M90 RS been cool? yes.

But you have completely gone off topic with this.

You are trying to sell a V6 to a bunch of people who own LT1's

 

Not my thread. Not trying to sell anything except knowledge. A lot of ignorance I was sharing 3800 fact.



One last thing, got a hold of The world record holding GP guy Matt. He said his car could be rebuilt for $25-30k not including the cost of car. Not bad considering he's going to go bottom 8s more than likely, if not 7s with it's current set up dialed in.