Colin91Z

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There has been alot of disagreement about what exhaust configuration should be allowed or not allowed, so here's your chance to be heard. This has been a hot topic in GIZMO's thread, which is straying from the point of that thread, so here's a thread in which to dicuss. It's already established that longtubes with off-roady y-pipe will be allowed of-course, this thread is for what is going to be allowed behind it.

Please keep it civil!!! We are all adults here.

If you have a better, more fair way, please post up or pm one of the rules commitee. We'd love to hear it.

Once again, the rules commitee for this are myself and Kall, Shon Herron, CamaroRacing12, Quick95lt1, and of course GIZMO. So please pm any one of us if you have any comments or questions that you don't want to post publicly.

Thanks,

Colin

CamaroRacing12

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the third option is the exact option i was going to propose in my set of rules i was going to come up with. its a compromise between both full exhaust and cutout guys

Colin91Z

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Which is the same option that I proposed in GIZMO's thread and felt was the best compromise, but I decided a poll might reveal what the majority felt so we could make the best decision possible...

quik95lt1

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Personally I say NO CUTOUT!!!! If you have one keep it closed.......its a "Street Stock" class.....we have to make the rules around the guys who already have true duals so they will have to be allowed however I've never seen a cutout equiped on a stock GM Vechicle from the showroom.....I say NO cutout!!!

again IMO.....

lifeisgood

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agreed, must have some sort of muffler. idk if im all in for a db test.... laws are different in each state on this. hell most cars with full exhaust and no cats will not pass a db test. i know my old 383 lt1 with lts, ory, and a borla catback wouldnt.lol

quik95lt1

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yea a db test is kinda crazy......i say exhaust must exit at least behind the drivers door.......must have mufflers and NO CUTOUT....

Wicked94Z

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burns makes a nice "muffler" perfect for those rules

http://www.burnsstainless.com/sm-300-450-6.aspx

lifeisgood

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wtf. thats worse than my bullet. lmao
but dont have a problem, its a muffler.lol
sounds good to me

AChotrod

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Catbacks only no cut outs no TDs. They are not street stock IMO if you wanna run that type of stuff and think you got an 11 sec bolt on car run EX NA/PA

CamaroRacing12

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someone said in the other thread it will be a 12.20 car at that weight and in that weather that will win it or be right there close to or at #1 qualifier and i think i'll agree with that. if someone runs faster then 11.8x at that weight in that weather something is def up.

1961ba427

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I voted for option 3. I see everyone's point about an open cut-out not being "street stock", but I think it is just that because I'd guess it would level the field as far as conversions to true duals vs. running the single stock style. I feel like a cut out on a single is just as/more streetable than duals due to ground clearance, etc. Plus as mentioned above, without some sort of muffler rule (which I don't like because there are too many choices) having duals is about as good as open headers.

I already said it, but I do not have a cut-out.....but I do believe singles should be allowed.

AChotrod

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As far as I know dumped TDs are also not street legal.

05HD

I voted for "anything goes". Here are my reasons why:

1. A "muffler" doesn't mean anything so that is a worthless rule
2. We are trying to encourage as many people as possible to run this class, right?
3. What is street legal or streetable varies by location so there will be no consensus on that.
4. I will not be forced to make a custom race only "street stock class" exhaust and keep swapping it on and off of my daily driver for test and tune leading up to the event.
5. A dB rule may eliminate a lot of people

AChotrod

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I think the rules are getting to open already. I think to make this class work you got to limit the rules to what MOST cars have not what you want to bring and the 3 people posting in the thread have.
NO bias ply tires
NO cutouts or TDs
Full interior
Min 3450 race weight
Stock trans(could swap years but only to another trans from a 93-97 F-bod)
No Motor mods that touch oil besides RRs
Stock style motor mounts(no solid mounts mid plates etc.)
Must retain stock PCM.

You guys are making this way harder than it needs to be IMO. Tony, Kyle and Ray already have a great set of rules for EX street, that just needs to be modified for this class.

1961ba427

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I caught up on the street stock class thread AFTER voting in this one.

I think it's rediculous how this is going for a class that is proposed to be for fun....not for a bolt-on record or big money or anything.

I wish I could change my vote to "anything goes" as mentioned above (hate to say I agree with him because I don't agree with anything else he said in the other thread) because it's the ONE choice that would allow the most cars.

If I get to make it to the there, my car exhaust will be TPIS LT's, ORYP, 3" mandrel bent I pipe from AutoZone, Hooker Aerochamber muffler (same part # as their catback) and 2 1/2" tailpipes also from Autozone. I went this way because it was the more affordable than the Hooker catback kit. No cut-out.

If I get my tail handed to me on the first pass by someone with one or two cut-outs or whatever....then so be it. It's not like the differences we are talking about should make that much HP on a bolt-on only car.

slick1851

Long tubes are not "carb" street legal

Roller rocker arms are not street legal


Most catbacks are not carb legal


Almost all mods are not legal unless the said company got there carb approved

You see were im going with this


I think True Dauls should be legal since most muscle cars periods have it


I do think they need to exit the rear bumper and need to have a muffler

AChotrod

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It could be the difference in winning and losing. So why not keep the field even and limit the exhaust from the headers back?

slick1851

At the dsm stock appearance class shoot out


All and any exhaust must exit the rear bumper

No exhaust can exit the side of the car,out of the front bumper, or dumped under the car.




I think true duals should and must be allowed

AChotrod

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You wont get a ticket for any of that stuff either.

AChotrod

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OK then, all exhaust must exit out the back and have mufflers. I was speaking in terms of a dumped exhaust which is nothing more than glorified header extensions.