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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 05:20 PM
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Should run good but you can get a better cam.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Yeah probably going to end up being an LE2 build

What you thinking cam wise?
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 05:33 PM
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I always laugh at those who parrot how there is a "better cam" than the 306 when really, results of such are few and far between. It has been said a thousand times, if everything is taken into consideration then it will work out very well. That cam is responsible for getting many f-bodies into the mid to low 11's with a good combo whereas there have been far too many examples of those "better cam" setups which have performed far less than expected. A "better cam" is not going to make or break a certain setup if other major factors are not considered.
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Yeah probably going to end up being an LE2 build

What you thinking cam wise?
I think you should stay with the 306 and talk to Craig at GTP and flush this "better cam" crap down the terlet.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 06:46 PM
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I've raced SEVERAL cars with the "machine shop ported heads, and 306 cam". It always hurts they're feelings when they get WALKED by a baby cam only 6 speed car.

2 different friends have that exact combo, they're both fat stinky turds.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:33 PM
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I'll save up for the LE2 package the more and more I read into the track numbers and dyno number they produce seem well worth the money talked to AI today as well and they seem like If you say your going LE on here they won't help you out and try to sell there product to you so LE2 it is!
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:36 PM
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I had the same experience with AI and couldnt be happier with my LE set up. Tell Lloyd exactly what you want from your car and he will spec out a cam for ya. Or **** Ill sell you my cam when my 383 gets back from Speedinc.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
I had the same experience with AI and couldnt be happier with my LE set up. Tell Lloyd exactly what you want from your car and he will spec out a cam for ya. Or **** Ill sell you my cam when my 383 gets back from Speedinc.
Well I'm looking for the best performing cam on the track that still is decently street able like I said I drive a total of 18 miles to work and back and when I want to go play around in it.

for S&G what the spec's on that cam???
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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I dunno never really thought about it yet, but I could DD my car I just dont have too.
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I meant on the cam your taking out and said about selling.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:58 PM
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I know, I never thought about a price yet. I dunno maybe 250 its got like 500 miles on it.
BTW Its a 234/238 610/610 112lsa with 1.6RRs
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by gregrob
I've raced SEVERAL cars with the "machine shop ported heads, and 306 cam". It always hurts they're feelings when they get WALKED by a baby cam only 6 speed car.

2 different friends have that exact combo, they're both fat stinky turds.
Doesn't mean the cam and cam only is to blame.
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 04:31 AM
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I have to agree on a custom grind. With heads you just can't throw a cam unless you stick with stock heads. Cams that work well with stock heads have been proven. Its extremely important to match them. You have a good foundation. If you were strictly spray only id say go for it but for NA the 306 is good at sounding great/peak numbers. There are better options. The cam AC has for sale would be good with some LE2s.
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
I know, I never thought about a price yet. I dunno maybe 250 its got like 500 miles on it.
BTW Its a 234/238 610/610 112lsa with 1.6RRs
Which cam is this? Is this the one where you ran 120mph or the one that you swapped out and advertised how it was going to make more power and did not? The one you ran at the shootout netting 12 second passes as ~114mph?
Just checking...

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NA the 306 is good at sounding great/peak numbers.


I mean what did all those f-bodys with a 306 cam do back in the 90's w/out the grace of LE?

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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Doesn't mean the cam and cam only is to blame.
I agree fully, it was probably 90% the heads. With good heads, and the correct stall, gear, tire combo the 306 will do work. Im just totally against people throwing them in stock short blocks.
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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Just got back from the machine shop.

its going to be a 355 with speed pro 11:1 forged pistons with stock rods with some ARP rod bolts along with the crank work and all balanced for 1250

He said he couldn't remember if it was a 4 bolt or 2 bolt but at my power level and with everything balanced I think i should be fine.
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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SSRRR the cam made more power then the old cam and holds on longer and drives better. The car was was not working right at the shootout, I could not get it to 60ft at all and it went 12.0 117 at the shootout the car is also 100#s heavier. I went 11.7 @ 118 in 1500+ DA next time at the track same set up and still not leaving good at all.

Ever since I put the comp 3way shocks and the 28" QTPs the car was leaving terrible. So I bought new shocks and went back to drag radials. Havent been back to the track but it feels 100% better on the street now. This vid shows how awful the car was leaving all last yr. Its not the cam.
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I do have the other cam still but its not as drivable for a DD with the 108LSA so I didnt offer it
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Just got back from the machine shop.

its going to be a 355 with speed pro 11:1 forged pistons with stock rods with some ARP rod bolts along with the crank work and all balanced for 1250

He said he couldn't remember if it was a 4 bolt or 2 bolt but at my power level and with everything balanced I think i should be fine.
What rods have you decided on?
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Just got back from the machine shop.

its going to be a 355 with speed pro 11:1 forged pistons with stock rods with some ARP rod bolts along with the crank work and all balanced for 1250

He said he couldn't remember if it was a 4 bolt or 2 bolt but at my power level and with everything balanced I think i should be fine.

Going to be using the stock ones and replace rod bolts
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
Going to be using the stock ones and replace rod bolts
I didn't read back through this whole thread to make sure you have this covered, but I hope you're going to resize the rods with the new rod bolts. ??
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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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I'm sure Joe at LPM will know all about that and he's going to be putting it together for me so that will be done.

But Joe also told me that the LE2 set up for the price is unbeatable and that I should do that instead of having his guy do it so looks like the LE2 set up is what its going to be.
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