jaycenk

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Ok tore it down and it looks like I may have more problems then just leaking head gaskets. Found out the head gaskets where leaking on Numbers 7 and 8 cylinders. So.... Why do my heads look like this? I have a slight coating of oil in the intake but the PCV pipes and hoses do NOT have hardley any oil at all in them. I have left them up side down for 2 days and not a drop anywhere and nothing pooled inside. Rings? Why are the intake runners looking like this. Why do the combustion chambers look like this? How bad did I get F'd on this engine or is this normal??? I can't belive it is. Heads are LE2, bottom end is a 383 eagle rotating kit. Here are the pics. Best guestimates as to what my be going on and ways to test it? Please give me your best guess I had it built because I don't set up custom engine combos.

















ALL of the exhaust ports look like this

SS RRR

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I would bet your intake gaskets are leaking. Have the heads/intake been milled?

BlownEarDrums

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Well looks like your burning oil. The one exh valve thats white looks like its been getting hot. Judging by how dry the intake runners are there might be an intake valve sealing issue. Causing the carbon to build up in the intake runners.

jaycenk

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Lloyd did mill the heads because he told me the combustion chambers are now like 52.5 CC The intake is stock. But there was NO oil around the intake gaskets at all either on the head flange, intake flange or either side on the intake gaskets. they are compleatley dry. By the way this is only about 4k to 5k miles on this thing. all street use.

BlownEarDrums

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Did you do a Cyl leak down test before pulling the heads?

jaycenk

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You think if he set it up with to much preload on the lifter it may be hanging the valve? If so what kind of damage can be expected if the valve isn't closing all the way? will they need to be reseated if this is the case?

AChotrod

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How far was it milled? Did you slot the intake holes so it seats right? Did you use sealant on the rocker studs that poke through into the runners?

jaycenk

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no because I had steam coming out the exhaust so I only thought it was a leaking head gasket. Then I opened it up lol.

jaycenk

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Intake holes where sloted so the heads would seat flat. I don't know I didn't build it by beacuse there was no sealant on the head bolt I doubt it was done on the rocker studs.

AChotrod

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You can see the hole if its in the oily port. Just cant tell from the pic.

BlownEarDrums

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I would send the heads out to a "reputable" shop and have them one overred. There is a possibility that the valve could be damaged or at least have carbon build up preventing it from acquiring a good seal. At worst I could see excessive cam lobe wear and lifter damage in addition to valve and valve seat damage.

Yikes DONT GO BACK TO THEM!!!!

BlownEarDrums

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I wonder if blue lock tite counts as sealant...? This could solve my oily intake problem.

jaycenk

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I can go out pull one of the rocker studs real quick and look but I looked in the runner and dont see them

jaycenk

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Not going to but like everything I do It is so hard to find a good place. One of the members gave me some names the other day in another thread somewhat close to me so I could call them. They should look fairly clean after that short of milage right? To me these things look like they have been on an engine for 300k miles.

BlownEarDrums

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They just look like they have been running bad. Burning oil creates alot of nasty carbon build up. I'll have to find some pics to show you of some nasty LPG engines with bad rings lol.

BlownEarDrums

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Be glad your motor dost look like this one

jaycenk

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beautimus... Got one quote for 800 buckaroos today. Basically full tear down and start over reussing the existing parts if they are any good still. lol I'm gona go put my head threw a wall now. Everytime I turn around....another grand.

gjohnsonws6

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pcv system still intact,connected and working properly? A catch can should help to prevent this

gjohnsonws6

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just read no sealant on head bolts?What exactly happened here? You have more info or another thread somewhere? Is it tuned properly?

jaycenk

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Well the tune had just been redone and seemed to working really well. Yea it's really long story as to what happened. Short version is even long lol. Turns out yes no thread sealant on the head bolts which lead to a small steam cloud on a hot start up and lead me to think the head gasket failed. Tore it down to short block and found the heads looking like this. No oil in the PCV system anywhere, but light oil in the intake. It seems to be a general consensus that maybe because the heads where milled and the intake is stock that maybe the intake gaskets were leaking but I see no signs of oil any where on the intake gaskets. I am really starting to think it's the rings but I am not someone who ever messes with bottom ends or even really does anything to the heads other than I could bolt them on. IDK for sure yet I still have to take this thing to someone and let them actually inspect the bottom end and the heads and cam and see what has been done and if it can be undone with out needing new parts. Just been a PIA since the time I said ok to build it. Original builder out sourced it and I don't know who built it but at this point I have to find someone and fix F' ups.....again.