Having issues! Need your guys' help ASAP.
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Having issues! Need your guys' help ASAP. Heres the story, sorry for the length but you'll understand it better.
So I just got done installing my Dynatech LT's and a few other replacement parts and gaskets on my 93 Formula. Well I got everything back together and it all went well. (Open headers
) Now mind you I don't have my o2 sensors hooked up cause i'm waiting for my 4 wire Heated o2's to arrive. So me and my buddy went and took it for a test drive cause i'm impatient. The car ran great but just a little rich on the fuel is all and so I went and did quite a few pulls with it just cause it's impossible not to get on it with open headers and naturally my SES light came on after awhile but didnt affect anything.
After 2 days of just a little driving around I came to a stop light and out of the blue I took off and it started "ticking" sort of like a header leak in a way
(but it's not). Well i drove home and it seemed like it was under powered. Still starts fine, don't smoke, oil pressure is good (60 PSI+) but has that ticking sound that follows the RPM of the motor but it's only the drivers side that does it.
Did a compression check last night and all cylinders are about 120+ PSI and they hold the pressure. Spark plugs are fine except maybe #5 which looked maybe a little bit more wet, not sure. Wires aren't burnt or anything. It almost sounds like it's "detonating" or pinging on just that side of the motor on one cylinder. Took the Valve cover off while it was running and everything looked like it should.
What the hell could be happening? Would the 02 sensors cause the computer to make a lean condition or something? I just don't know what would cause this?
Anybody have an idea??
Thanks
So I just got done installing my Dynatech LT's and a few other replacement parts and gaskets on my 93 Formula. Well I got everything back together and it all went well. (Open headers
) Now mind you I don't have my o2 sensors hooked up cause i'm waiting for my 4 wire Heated o2's to arrive. So me and my buddy went and took it for a test drive cause i'm impatient. The car ran great but just a little rich on the fuel is all and so I went and did quite a few pulls with it just cause it's impossible not to get on it with open headers and naturally my SES light came on after awhile but didnt affect anything. After 2 days of just a little driving around I came to a stop light and out of the blue I took off and it started "ticking" sort of like a header leak in a way
(but it's not). Well i drove home and it seemed like it was under powered. Still starts fine, don't smoke, oil pressure is good (60 PSI+) but has that ticking sound that follows the RPM of the motor but it's only the drivers side that does it.
Did a compression check last night and all cylinders are about 120+ PSI and they hold the pressure. Spark plugs are fine except maybe #5 which looked maybe a little bit more wet, not sure. Wires aren't burnt or anything. It almost sounds like it's "detonating" or pinging on just that side of the motor on one cylinder. Took the Valve cover off while it was running and everything looked like it should.
What the hell could be happening? Would the 02 sensors cause the computer to make a lean condition or something? I just don't know what would cause this?
Anybody have an idea??
Thanks
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sounds like exhaust leak, tighten your header bolts one more time. Also check to make sure a plug wire is not arching on the header. Also sounds like it could be leaking at the collector. What kind of header bolts did you get to replace the stockers? I had some crappy ones from advanced but they kept backing out so I went with 1 inch arp bolts and haven't had a problem since 
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sounds like exhaust leak, tighten your header bolts one more time. Also check to make sure a plug wire is not arching on the header. Also sounds like it could be leaking at the collector. What kind of header bolts did you get to replace the stockers? I had some crappy ones from advanced but they kept backing out so I went with 1 inch arp bolts and haven't had a problem since
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I just don't understand how it just started happening out of nowhere.
I can try to post a vid later today maybe.
On a cold start I would run over to each collector real quick and make sure ther is not a leak down at the collector where all the pipes go into it. A weld could have cracked and caused a leak down there. I had a leak on some LPP's down there that I thought was a sticking lifter or a light rod knock. It has been the biggest PITA but I think I finally got it under control. If you need to see what I am talking about here are the posts I made about it. https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...er-w-pics.html
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On a cold start I would run over to each collector real quick and make sure ther is not a leak down at the collector where all the pipes go into it. A weld could have cracked and caused a leak down there. I had a leak on some LPP's down there that I thought was a sticking lifter or a light rod knock. It has been the biggest PITA but I think I finally got it under control. If you need to see what I am talking about here are the posts I made about it. https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...er-w-pics.html
If I had a cylinder missfire, would that cause any sort of "ticking" "pfft" type sound at all? would like to rule that out if possible. An injector maybe? it definately has the sound towards the bottom of the motor though.
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If you didn't have it before the headers chances are it's an exhaust leak or wire problem. before you go calling it a rod knock I would look real good at knock counts, The exhaust system, Plug wires and try swaping the sensors and see if it follows if you have one in each header. I thought I had a rod knock and low and behold after having a fresh engine built for it, I had the same sound when I got the new one up and running. I couldn't belive how much that exhaust leak sounded like a rod knock. It even had some mechanics fooled when I started it for them.
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If you didn't have it before the headers chances are it's an exhaust leak or wire problem. before you go calling it a rod knock I would look real good at knock counts, The exhaust system, Plug wires and try swaping the sensors and see if it follows if you have one in each header. I thought I had a rod knock and low and behold after having a fresh engine built for it, I had the same sound when I got the new one up and running. I couldn't belive how much that exhaust leak sounded like a rod knock. It even had some mechanics fooled when I started it for them.
Would a loose spark plug do this? they seemed tight when I pulled em but who knows.
Here's a crazy one, we had a car in the shop for a cam swap, customer drove it in, we checked it, everything was good,then the mechanic started working on it, After the new cam, started it up and is sounded exactly like a rod was knocking, Long story short, it turned out to be carbon build up in the cylinders, How? who the hell knows, Moisture made the carbon swell up? but I'm telling you it was loud, We ran some GM top end cleaner and all was good..Another thing you can do with the valve covers off is while the engine is running, push down on each rocker (With a rag) and see if the ticking goes away, if so, that cylinder is the culprit.
[QUOTE=moehorsepower;..Another thing you can do with the valve covers off is while the engine is running, push down on each rocker (With a rag) and see if the ticking goes away, if so, that cylinder is the culprit.[/QUOTE]
If you push on the push rod end, the valve will "clack" and then should shut up when you release it.
Al
If you push on the push rod end, the valve will "clack" and then should shut up when you release it.
Al
Only if they are arching, but yea I have had problems some times with the plugs not being all the way tight. A lot of times the plug sockets bottom out on the heads before the plug is seated and makes you think its tight. I had the same thing happen when I did my headers. put a plug in and the socket bottomed out. about a week later I checked them and 1 was only finger tight.
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Okay so i'm going to check a few more things.
My uncle suggested that maybe an injector was bad and was leaning out a cylinder causing the tick.
I'll try the rocker arm deal
can the spark plug wires arc even if they are good wires? how can I prevent this?
My uncle suggested that maybe an injector was bad and was leaning out a cylinder causing the tick.
I'll try the rocker arm deal
can the spark plug wires arc even if they are good wires? how can I prevent this?