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I think im F'd. Milkshake.....Need Help.

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Old 04-24-2011, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 97Z28SS
I bet the engine is hydro-locked from the water going in the engine, the engine is toast no way around it. Time for a build or another shortblock.
the engine still turns.
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Originally Posted by GreenBlood55
is it even possible for 1 person to get the engine out? i just moved not long ago and know NO ONE around here to help.
I pulled and installed my motor by myself, through the top with no prior motor pulling experience. Believe me, dooood... pulling a motor is not that big of a deal. Doing it myself saved me thousands of dollars.
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Originally Posted by am_muscl
1. go to autozone and buy the haynes manual for the 93-02 camaro/firebirds. READ IT THOROUGHLY!!
2. Go to harbor freight or sears, buy a full tool set with wrenches, sockets, and ratchets.
3. Look in the Eastern Members section and find someone willing to let you borrow a lift, or go buy one for $120.
4. It's not very hard to pull the motor, trust me...3 years ago I didn't even know what the intake manifold was, now I've completely torn down my car and am putting it all back together. Trust me, if I can do it you can also.
5. Once you pull the motor do some research on local engine builders, contact them and tell them you want a rebuild, decide whether you want a built badass motor or just a stock rebuild. Expect to pay anywhere from $1k to $2500 depending on what you want done, if your block isn't f*cked.
6. Post up any other questions and make sure to start a build thread when you start this project.
This post pretty much sums it up. If you can't find someone to loan you an engine hoist, find a place that'll rent one to you. That's what I did.
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Update:

I jacked up the car and took the oil pan plug out...




Its flowing out a steady stream of milkshake. I have filled the 1 1/2 gallon catch pan twice with no signs of slowing. I get a squirt of water every now and then as the sludge is coming out.

So now what.
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Originally Posted by carlos64030
This post pretty much sums it up. If you can't find someone to loan you an engine hoist, find a place that'll rent one to you. That's what I did.
Yep, I've now pulled two of my Z28's motors. One out the top and one out the bottom it was easy. Just label and bag 'n tag parts. Makes reassembly easy!


I mean I'm sure you have a couple car buddies who can help you out over a weekend. Just get everything prepped and ready before hand and you can easily swap it in a weekend. If the car is as nice as you say it'd be worth it to pick up a new LT1 for 500 bucks or so, spend another 200 or so on new gaskets and fluids and you have a clean good running LT1 for less than 2k. I picked up my 42k mile Long block for 500 bucks just two weeks ago. It's now in my 95 Z28. This is also a great time to do any mods, headers/heads/cam/intake/stall/clutch etc.
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Originally Posted by GreenBlood55
Update:

I jacked up the car and took the oil pan plug out...




Its flowing out a steady stream of milkshake. I have filled the 1 1/2 gallon catch pan twice with no signs of slowing. I get a squirt of water every now and then as the sludge is coming out.

So now what.
That "clank" you heard was likely a rod shearing itself, and its time to rebuild.
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Originally Posted by GreenBlood55
Update:

I jacked up the car and took the oil pan plug out...




Its flowing out a steady stream of milkshake. I have filled the 1 1/2 gallon catch pan twice with no signs of slowing. I get a squirt of water every now and then as the sludge is coming out.

So now what.
It's done time to pull it and go through it or buy that blue print remaned long block from Jegs for 2k and bolt it in and go. It's gonna cost you about the same amount if you take your to a builder and the heads and block are not F'ed so I think the blue print reman engine comes with a 12 month unlimited millage warrenty.
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Originally Posted by GreenBlood55
Update:

I jacked up the car and took the oil pan plug out...




Its flowing out a steady stream of milkshake. I have filled the 1 1/2 gallon catch pan twice with no signs of slowing. I get a squirt of water every now and then as the sludge is coming out.

So now what.
keep going, let it all out. start with this list and go step by step. It's easier than you think, don't worry about all the steps, print this out and just start going step by step

http://www.afrashteh.com/guide/install.htm
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My bad it's 2900 bucks and comes with a 30 month/ 50k mile warrenty. This is the 95-96 engine http://www.jegs.com/i/Blueprint+Engi...5029C/10002/-1
And this is the 92/94 version http://www.jegs.com/i/Blueprint+Engi...5027C/10002/-1
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Originally Posted by jaycenk
It's done time to pull it and go through it or buy that blue print remaned long block from Jegs for 2k and bolt it in and go. It's gonna cost you about the same amount if you take your to a builder and the heads and block are not F'ed so I think the blue print reman engine comes with a 12 month unlimited millage warrenty.
Looks like its $2,900 add that to the 1,000 for the car and another $1,000 minimum to have it all swapped and I might as well sell it and look for a running LS1.
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It would be retarded to pay that for that engine. Call clayton racing
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Or you could do a swap.. complete 5.3 w/ 4l60E complete K-member PCM & wiring harness. Swap is pretty much bolt up and go, just have a local shop etc modify your wiring harness etc. If you do the work you easily swap it for around 2k and a 5.3 will be on par power wise with a LT1..or for alittle more go LQ/LS


Whatever you do just man up and do the work yourself. Pays off in the end you save a ton of $$ and nothing like that sense of accomplishment the first time it fires up.
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**** it. I think im just going to sell it. I dont need the headache.
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Anyone interested in buying? lol. Its red with black leather, interior is in great shape, the exterior is pretty good, clear coat pealing on the drivers door and drivers qtr panel. and it has a crack on the nose. Has salad shooters with bald tires. Make an offer. 150k miles.
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I'll take it off your hands for free...lol. I'll pay the shipping to Cali hahaa.
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Do i get to add a shipping "surcharge" ? lol

In all seriousness, knowing everything I have said about this car, what should I be able to get back out of it selling it whole?
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Originally Posted by GreenBlood55
Do i get to add a shipping "surcharge" ? lol

In all seriousness, knowing everything I have said about this car, what should I be able to get back out of it selling it whole?
List it on CL, disclose known issues, AKA needs new motor. List it at like 1500, you'll get lowballed take any offer you deem reasonable.


Post some pics of it. FWIW I picked up my '95 Z28 6spd hardtop for 900. Had blown head gaskets and a worn interior.
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Originally Posted by GreenBlood55
**** it. I think im just going to sell it. I dont need the headache.
Hate to tell you, that's probably the best decision. There's no shame in admitting that you don't have the money, skill, tools, time to do something like a motor swap. And if you pay someone to do it, plus adding the price of a rebuilt (not USED) engine, like someone said, you're looking at spending more than a running LT1, and getting close to LS1 territory.

If you can't swap the engine, then you probably shouldn't try parting it out yourself. If the body and interior is a nice as you say, there's probably a bunch of people who would pay a grand for it, and you've broken even.
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SOLD!!! Put it on craigslist for 2000 and took 1200 for it.
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lol.... jesus, i suggest you stay away from anything without a warranty...


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