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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 10:34 AM
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I've read what feels like a million threads about changing rod bolts. I know best practice is to have rods resized after new bolts. So we don't need to beat a dead horse with that discussion. What I would like to know is who has successfully changed stock rod bolts for ARP without having the rods resized?
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 10:37 AM
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i havent but please..............dont do it!!! lol
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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I just don't want to stretch another stock rod bolt.


Does anybody have any horror stories after doing it?
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 11:10 AM
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 11:23 AM
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I put ARP2000's in my rods with no issues. But I haven't spun it past 6500, nor will I.

Technically, you can't resize the LS1 cracked cap rods. You can only give them a light hone and hope you don't end up being oversize, sacrificing bearing crush.

People say to recon sbc rods as well, but I had no issues pounding in a set of Wave locks in stock rods and carrying on recklessly.

Just don't put them in and then expect to immediately take your engine to 7500+. That's the majority of the problem people see and post about.

When you overspeed the rods, the big end gets pulled into an oval. No rod bolts or reconditioning will prevent this. The sides of the rod bearings get pinched into the journal, the oil film is broken and voila, spun bearing.

I'd put in a set of Clevite bearings with a higher crush and a medium to high eccentricity while you're doing the bolts to protect against this if you're bent (pun intended) on high rpm's.

http://www.jegs.com/p/Clevite/Clevit...44634/10002/-1

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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 03:47 PM
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If you dont spin a stock bottom end past 6500 is there that much of a need to replace the stock rod bolts? I had considered replacing my rod bolt with ARP's the next time I had the motor out, I didnt realize the rods would need to be resized to do this. I'll probably just stick with stock bolts until I need to rebuild the bottom end if thats the case.
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Come people don't be shy, I know you have done it. What are your results?
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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I was wondering the same thing a while ago but never had the ***** to ask lol. Sorry about your car. Oh, btw the 9 inch is working great now. I'm adam85 on cz28.
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I was wondering the same thing a while ago but never had the ***** to ask lol. Sorry about your car. Oh, btw the 9 inch is working great now. I'm adam85 on cz28.
Awesome, glad to hear your happy with the purchase. I wish I could've kept it but I want to run stock wheels on my Firehawk racecar.
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Come people don't be shy, I know you have done it. What are your results?
No they haven't..... These aren't LS1's. And while you're at it can you show me some proof of the stock rod bolts stretching?
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 01:13 AM
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Rule of thumb. If you replace rod bolts you must re-size the rod. Even if you drive a bolt out and put it back in, have it re-sized. And, you're right. LS rods are fractured and can't be re-sized. You can replace the rod bolts and not re-size them and you can put water in your tires instead of air, but it's not the correct thing to do.

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