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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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Can someone please shed some light on why my F***** 375$ Pace Setter Headers are Hitting my Steering shaft?!? Never herd of this happening to anyone else. I had to grind the living S*** out of the shaft to make it driveable. I paid good money for these headers. I would expect them to be designed properly. Anyone have an idea of what in the hell is going on?!? Is this really just a characteristic of these headers?

Its a 95 pontiac trans am, LT1, 6 speed.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 07:38 PM
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welcome to longtube headers....
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 07:46 PM
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When i did my pacesetters on my 94 camaro i had to cut off the steel cup looking thing down near the rag joint.

Id say if your motor mounts are old and saggy thats a good possibility of why its being a pain.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 07:53 PM
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I had to move my steering shaft for my pacesetters back in '08. They even rattled against the heat shield on the floorpan o the passengers side That's why I just went with the ebays this time. However I think a lot depends on if a car was wrecked and motor mounts. Every header is prone to fitment issues.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 07:56 PM
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Hate to tell you but $375 is cheap as hell for headers and you get what you pay for.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Hate to tell you but $375 is cheap as hell for headers and you get what you pay for.
Boomshakalaka.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 08:15 PM
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Try tapping the steering knuckle from the top so it can slide down the shaft that'll give you a little more room to work with I had the same problem but most likely they'll still end up being a few millimeters away from the knuckle.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 08:27 PM
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I think I remember sliding my steering shaft to fit my LT Pacesetters...other than that, they went on rather smoothly. Did you buy them new?

I agree, $375 is cheap for set. If you wanted the best you would have paid double or triple. As I've learned so many times in life, cheaper is not always the best solution.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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I had the same problem and I did new motor mounts, just be happy you didnt have to cut the k-member
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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My pace setters cost more than 375, but they seemed to fit without too much hassle, and i had the emisions friendly ones.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 08:50 PM
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I havent seen any long tube header go in easy, without hammer, grind few spot .
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by killagt
I havent seen any long tube header go in easy, without hammer, grind few spot .
Mine did. It happens. But not often.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LSWHO
Mine did. It happens. But not often.
Mine went in without issue also.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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I had to drop my K-member for my Hooker/Jet Hot LTs.

Remember, your K-member is installed in slotted holes, and your motor mounts bolt to it, and they can be worn.

There is a great deal of variability there. My friend's T/A we hardly had any problems. Mine, we had to drop the K-member.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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i have installed 5 sets of pacesetters. all of them fit great no issues. motor mounts will make a difference.
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 10:48 PM
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So I'm about to install some hooker LTs soon. What's this with motor mounts. Should be replaced or what?
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Old Jul 12, 2011 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 02v8ta
So I'm about to install some hooker LTs soon. What's this with motor mounts. Should be replaced or what?
Yea why not, u at it anyway. but check the condition first.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by killagt
Yea why not, u at it anyway. but check the condition first.
Get poly motor mounts and poly trans mount while your at it....you won't be disappointed.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Poly mounts and no issue period. Everyone is so quick to blame the headers. I have installed more than I care to count. Each with new poly inserts. Never once an issue.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 10:57 AM
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my PS LTs fit great with knew motor mounts ect. I had to adjust the steering shaft down a little but it is a LS1 steering shaft i have plenty of room
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