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Old 07-26-2011, 04:28 PM
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Default Street cars, what PCV setup are you running?

I tried running breathers but the ac is pulling in the fumes from the engine bay now, so I'm thinking about keeping the breathers, but hooking up the pcv valve again, except with the truck pcv valve going into my catch can to keep the breathers from puffing under normal driving.

Truck PCV on the right
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Mr. Gasket 2054 baffled breather with a stock hose to TB, stock PCV/hose looped back to intake on driver's side. (94 engine PCV setup, breather on top of Canton cover on pass. side). Works pretty well, no catch can at present.
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Stock PCV valve and tubing on the driver side, breather on the passenger side. No catch can.
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Stock PCV valve and tubing on the driver side, breather on the passenger side. No catch can.
thats what i ran on my 355 for a long time sucessfully before i went to the vacuum pump
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Originally Posted by quik95lt1
thats what i ran on my 355 for a long time sucessfully before i went to the vacuum pump
What are the benefits of a vacuum pump?
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What are the benefits of a breather on the passenger side?
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Stock as stock can be.

Originally Posted by whytryz28
What are the benefits of a breather on the passenger side?
The overwhelming consensus is a stock PVC system is not able to handle the normal blow by duties of a heavily modified engine therefore there is oil reversion through the breather tube, into the plenum and if it's bad enough, into the intake ports. If it's bad enough even a breather will give signs of abnormal blow by with a lovely oily mist all over the engine bay or puffs of oil smoke through every engine orifice exposed to crankcase pressures. With a breather, the engine is no longer fully dependent on the PCV system getting rid of any positive pressures. IMO it's more of a bandaid than anything. Right, Mr. speed_demon24?
If you do spot any sort of oil gunk or mist around the breather tube, on the throttle body, see or feel a positive pressure out of your oil fill with the PCV properly functioning it would be a good idea to get a leakdown done.

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What are the benefits of a vacuum pump?
Aside from taking care of positive pressures it also creates a vacuum w/in the engine, thus less air for the rotating assembly to move around which equals less parasitic losses.

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I should mention that the ONLY reason I am running a breather instead of the fresh air supply tube is because my valve covers didn't have a provision for the grommet. If they did I'd be stock too.
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
I should mention that the ONLY reason I am running a breather instead of the fresh air supply tube is because my valve covers didn't have a provision for the grommet. If they did I'd be stock too.
Suuuuuuuuure it is!
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Originally Posted by BOLO
What are the benefits of a vacuum pump?
while your usual pcv system is jusstttt about capable of evacuating the crank case a vacuum pump can actually pull a vacuum in the crank case.......mine is aobut 17" inhg at high rpm........it also allows me to run a looser oil control ring and still seal to the cylinder...less resistance = more power........also remember things move easier in a vacuum......less air = less resistance to moving espically when you have something like the bottom of a piston that looks like a parachute............also i haven't had a drip of oil come out of any seal on this motor in 3 years!! lol...........a vacuum pump is worth a few hp also
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Stock as stock can be.


The overwhelming consensus is a stock PVC system is not able to handle the normal blow by duties of a heavily modified engine therefore there is oil reversion through the breather tube, into the plenum and if it's bad enough, into the intake ports. If it's bad enough even a breather will give signs of abnormal blow by with a lovely oily mist all over the engine bay or puffs of oil smoke through every engine orifice exposed to crankcase pressures. With a breather, the engine is no longer fully dependent on the PCV system getting rid of any positive pressures. IMO it's more of a bandaid than anything. Right, Mr. speed_demon24?
If you do spot any sort of oil gunk or mist around the breather tube, on the throttle body, see or feel a positive pressure out of your oil fill with the PCV properly functioning it would be a good idea to get a leakdown done.


Aside from taking care of positive pressures it also creates a vacuum w/in the engine, thus less air for the rotating assembly to move around which equals less parasitic losses.
Considering stock these cars intake manifolds become coated in oil I disagree.
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Anyone know if there's a way to use the stock AIR pump as a vacuum pump, I seem to recall seeing or reading about it somewhere, anyone have any details or pics of how to do this?
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Considering stock these cars intake manifolds become coated in oil I disagree.
Mine's dry.
Oh yeah.. nevermind. I don't make real horsie powers...
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Originally Posted by SS RRR
Mine's dry.
Oh yeah.. nevermind. I don't make real horsie powers...
Proof. Either way you probably only put 50 miles on it since the 396 went in so...

And I'm betting its the baffling in the valve covers I have. They aren't stock and I have no idea who makes them.
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Two breathers in the valve covers, stock PCV valve and hose set up.

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Oil in the intake manifold is normal FTW.
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
Oil in the intake manifold is normal FTW.
What about oil droplets on the back bumper after dyno runs?
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
what about oil droplets on the back bumper after dyno runs?
#kapow!
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
What about oil droplets on the back bumper after dyno runs?
That is to keep someone from getting up under and throwing ya into the wall!!!!!

or that is your natural oil squirters for when you are competing in Death Race.
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So what is the cost and complexity of running a vacuum pump?


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