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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 04:26 PM
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I am installing a efi 24x ignition on my newly rebuilt 355; should be around 370rwhp. I am wondering if I should buy a keyed hub or keep the factory hub.

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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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My car has about the same power and I spun mine off. You should get a keyed hub or have your stock one keyed.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Go for a keyed hub while you're there. I'm running the professional products one because my stock hub kept coming off due to an aftermarket crank. No more problems now and it's good insurance.
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Old Aug 21, 2011 | 08:15 PM
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This is the hub I will be using http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEGS-...item2eb4a64c21; will it work with the stock balancer.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 10:20 AM
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I love that 23x ignition, brah.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 11:05 AM
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Where do you get these keys? Went to Pepboys and there was nothing. Ace hardware?
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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Any good engine machine shop would have them, or Jegs and Summit.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by myltwon
Go for a keyed hub while you're there. I'm running the professional products one because my stock hub kept coming off due to an aftermarket crank. No more problems now and it's good insurance.
How does this happen if you TQ the bolt down correctly? i have a callies crank and a stock hub with no issues and im around 430rwhp with no boost.
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Originally Posted by 96TransAmboosted
How does this happen if you TQ the bolt down correctly? i have a callies crank and a stock hub with no issues and im around 430rwhp with no boost.
Stock hub is press fit and not all aftermarket cranks have the same snout diameter as factory. Ton of rpm + loose fitting hub, means the bolt will work itself loose and the hub will eventually get chewed up inside. Had it happen atleast 2 or 3 times before I figured what the problem was and just keyed the crank. If you're planning on adding a supercharged this will only multiply the problem.

I have an Eagle crank for reference.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by qc97z
I love that 23x ignition, brah.
Fixed that for you.

^ With enough TQ and rpms the hub can spin even with the factory crank. A keyed hub is just insurance; if the hub spins it can screw up the end of the crank and changing the crank takes a lot more $$ than a keyed hup would have cost you.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 03:36 PM
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^ Lol I was just messing with you man. I've got a different hub on mine with a key. I've always thought a pressed-on hub isn't a really great idea.
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Old Aug 22, 2011 | 11:52 PM
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^ Yep I was shocked when I first pulled the hub off a few years ago and noticed there was a spot in the crank for a key, but the hub was not keyed. There was a thread a few weeks ago where a fellow lt1 owner raced a mustang and ended up spinning the hub off on his new motor; I don't want that to happen to me so I ordered the one from jegs.
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Old Aug 23, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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FWIW I had issues getting my Pioneer keyed hub on. They actually machined it either too small, or my compstar crank snout was too big. I had to have it put on a lathe. After that it was nice and tight. It goes on with my press tool easily. I like having a keyed hub, because you can be sure things are not going to move, and can mark your balancer for reference.

I have an extra pioneer keyed hub that was machined a little over, that i can let go for cheap.

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Old Aug 24, 2011 | 09:23 PM
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Pioneer makes a keyed hub
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 04:52 AM
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The Jegs piece is nice, and you can get a multipack of keys at Advanced Auto that will have one of the right size.
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 08:05 AM
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I know this is not the place, but I have a Keyed hub that is also helicoiled that I will be selling in interested. PM me about price and I can send a pic. I will post it on the for sale site with pics hopefully this week..
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 08:16 AM
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I have a rebuilt LT1 punched to a 355 and we put a forged crank in it, the stock balancer assembly wouldn't fit the new crank because it had a key. So my local machine shop guy is going to have his crankshaft guy cut a key slot in it. It is a pretty simple process and takes only a day or two turn around. IMHO key your crank and balancer/hub. Cheap insurance against spin-off.
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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Its good insurance to have and gives you piece of mind. You don't want a hub coming off at high rpms.
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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If you want to go overkill or ever have plans to supercharge you might want to get a double keyed hub / big block chevy outer diameter hub.

http://www.atiracing.com/products/da...arger.hubs.htm
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Old Aug 25, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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^ That is a nice piece, but I have ordered the jegs unit; should be here today I hope it is not machined smaller than the stock hub.
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