joelster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h26Uz...layer_embedded

Does that link work?

Puck

iTrader: (17)

Weren't you the one so quick to point out that ET's are only due to the setup of the car and not its engine? You always seem quick to discredit quick ET's from cars that DONT use the parts you want for all sorts of crazy reasons(its gutted, can't be driven on the street, the track is downhill/underground/in Antarctica, etc) but then you ask for ET's to show a proven powerful motors worth? Wouldn't a poor ET just mean its not set up properly, and an impressive ET means they took their time to dial it in?

Doesn't exactly seem fair.

EDIT: That link works fine Joel

SoxXpupPeT

iTrader: (34)

The last link worked aswell as this one. Your right that car does look slow; hardly any drama at all.


OP... Do whatever the hell you want. Its your money and either AFR or AI stockers are going to be Monstrous! If you are on a budget just for for which evers the cheaper of the two.

SS RRR

iTrader: (2)

You sure are desperate at mouthing to make something out of nothing. I've never said anything like that. I like to see ET's, MPH, DA, race weight and track location before making any sort of judgment call. Where you may have again become lost is I have stated in the past how ET means not a lot of anything regarding what kind of power an engine is making. Anything else you need to use to deflect from your confusion?

Puck

iTrader: (17)

If
...and one engine has already made 500rwhp N/A, why do you need still need ET's (that you admit mean not a lot of anything as far an power) to admit that the heads "work very well" and as proof of their performance?

You are not only grasping at straws, but contradicting yourself.

93Z2871805

iTrader: (5)

FWIW, we have a local race event for street cars (Big Block and Small Block classes), and the rules allow any stock heads and certain aftermarket heads (Edelbrock, Pro Comp, some Brodix, etc.) with any modifications (including epoxy and welding), certain heads (AFR, RHS, some Brodix, All Pro, etc.) are prohibited. They want to keep the racing close and fair by preventing people with deep pockets from running away from everyone else in the class.

IMO, starting with a good aftermarket casting that will deliver out of the box and provide plenty of room to grow in the future is the way to go.

05HD

He doesn't mind contradicting himself, as long as it means he can keep on arguing.

SS RRR is "special".

SS RRR

iTrader: (2)

Oh you... I see what you're doing.

... unless you are stupid enough to take a dyno number as gospel truth without any further information?
You are a tricky one you are!

And you...

LilJayV10

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Puck

iTrader: (17)

From people like Tony, Sikora, and Steve? Yea, I'd take any dyno number they say as Gospel. What do they have to prove to lie or inflate a number??? Show off to some Keyboard Racers? .

I was hoping to get a more colorful response out of you, but it seems the jig is up .

SS RRR

iTrader: (2)

Of course you would. Wouldn't expect anything different.
It's your choice. No matter the rock star I'd much rather see track results.

coolmanvette75

iTrader: (2)

Im gonna be different and say go with the TFS 21* heads. They work great out of the box and when you are ready, ai or le can port them for even better numbers...

Tireburnin

iTrader: (42)

I would buy some AFR heads and have them ported by Advanced Induction. Split the difference.

Haha

SS RRR

iTrader: (2)

Now you've done it... The brohsters will not put up with your shenanigans.

quik95lt1

iTrader: (7)

Fwiw .....my ai headed car turned a 10.01@135 na today at 3305lbs .......figured id add that in there

IronOutlaw

iTrader: (4)

This video is a fake. That car doesnt have an LT1, it has a 2JZ swap from a Supra.


I also dont know what the big deal is with AFR vs AI. Both have proven to be performers.
Ive decided to go with the Trick Flow 21* heads on my 355 build. I can get them cheaper than I can a set of AI ported stockers and still make my goal of 420rwhp.

brokenbird

iTrader: (5)

Brodix trac 1's ftw!

lncboytre_d

The afr 195 eliminators work with the LT1 intake. Just have it ported and you'll be fine. Right now I run mine with a cc306 on spray. N/A or spray it pulls like a beast. If it means anything to the op, soon I am going to use my out of the box AFR's with a AI cam. Best of both worlds. My stock heads were damaged also, I wanted something out of the box that performed well without breaking the bank....AFR was my solution. To each his own...apples and oranges.

AChotrod

iTrader: (17)

My car makes pretty good power for what it is. Also used to be pretty quick on the stock suspension. Now I changed so much its a turd (although I think I finally figured it out).
Just proof a car with decent HP can run crappy #s at the track if the car isnt set up right.

FYI I have LE2 ported stockers and only know of 1 or 2 similar cars with AI heads that make more power. They also have 10bolts and 3.73s which add a decent amount on the dyno over 4.10s and a S60.

AI,LE, AFR, TFS and many many others all can make great power. Its the total combo that counts. Ive seen many cars with the same heads listed above have crappy results.

speed_demon24

iTrader: (6)

They also have an unported intake and stock waterpump which more than negates that, not to mention actual full weight with zr1's on all 4 corners and still managed to trap over 120 with gearing that makes them cross the traps under 6000 rpm's. What happened to your trap speed when you ran a 28" tire with the 4.11's which is pretty much the same as running 3.73's on a 25.7" tire? Or what about the fact that there's a heavy impala running 10's with the same heads/cam setup as me?

Lets not forget the fact that I also gained 25rwhp and 2mph and .2 in the 1/4 by going from an le2 setup with a ported intake to an Ai setup with a stock intake and no other changes.