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Old 09-27-2011, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ahritchie
Direct injection on many of the new high-tech motors already does this (new v6 Camaro for instance)...fuel pressures of over 2000 psi atomizes and cools the intake charge much more efficiently, thus allowing much higher compression ratios and 10-15% more HP:D Win-win! Somebody needs to invent a aftermarket DI cylinder head and fuel system for the LT1...can you say 14:1 compression on pump gas That would be cool!
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
i cant even make 14:1 on 112 octane forget about 93 lol
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Originally Posted by quik95lt1
i cant even make 14:1 on 112 octane forget about 93 lol
Ok...maybe 14:1 is optimistic...13:1 or 12.5:1 is probably doable. Why can't you make more compression on a LT motor anyway? LS motors get as much as 15:1 compression Don't believe me?!:
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com..._ss/index.html

Somebody in the LT1 arena needs to step their game up!

^ That Camaro is Badass!
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Originally Posted by ahritchie
Ok...maybe 14:1 is optimistic...13:1 or 12.5:1 is probably doable. Why can't you make more compression on a LT motor anyway? LS motors get as much as 15:1 compression Don't believe me?!:
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com..._ss/index.html

Somebody in the LT1 arena needs to step their game up!
You're projected power gains from direct injection are about 10x high too.
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Originally Posted by ahritchie
Ok...maybe 14:1 is optimistic...13:1 or 12.5:1 is probably doable. Why can't you make more compression on a LT motor anyway? LS motors get as much as 15:1 compression Don't believe me?!:
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com..._ss/index.html

Somebody in the LT1 arena needs to step their game up!
compression has nothing to do with the platform its all combustion space if you can get it small enough your cr will go up........i cant move my head down anymore because of piston to valve issues so my only way would be a larger dome........but even at that i will start to have clearance issues
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
You're projected power gains from direct injection are about 10x high too.
Prove it with real world examples. You obviously don't know much about new cars. Every engine I've seen that had DI added gained 10%+ HP over port injection versions of the same engine...at least that's what the manufactures say. I'm giving facts...the new camaros DI LFX v6 makes 312 HP while the SAME engine but without DI makes only 256hp in the port injection. Your pulling **** out of your ***!

"The 3.6 litre (3564 cc) LLT is a direct injected version based on the earlier LY7 engine. It was first unveiled in May 2006, and the DI version was claimed to have 15 percent greater power, 8 percent greater torque, and 3 percent better fuel economy than its port-injected counterpart. The LLT engine has a compression ratio of 11.4:1, and has been certified by the SAE to produce 302 horsepower (225 kW) at 6300 rpm and 272 lb·ft (369 N·m) of torque at 5200 rpm on regular unleaded (87 octane) gasoline. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_High_Feature_engine

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Originally Posted by ahritchie
Prove it with real world examples. You obviously don't know much about new cars. Every engine I've seen that had DI added gained 10%+ HP over port injection versions of the same engine...at least that's what the manufactures say. I'm giving facts...the new camaros DI LFX v6 makes 312 HP while the SAME engine but without DI makes only 256hp in the port injection. Your pulling **** out of your ***!

"The 3.6 litre (3564 cc) LLT is a direct injected version based on the earlier LY7 engine. It was first unveiled in May 2006, and the DI version was claimed to have 15 percent greater power, 8 percent greater torque, and 3 percent better fuel economy than its port-injected counterpart. The LLT engine has a compression ratio of 11.4:1, and has been certified by the SAE to produce 302 horsepower (225 kW) at 6300 rpm and 272 lb·ft (369 N·m) of torque at 5200 rpm on regular unleaded (87 octane) gasoline. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_High_Feature_engine
Sure thing... I'm sure DI was the only thing they changed on it. You lost all credibility when you said you could run 14:1 on pump gas with direct injection.

And let's not mention any downsides to direct injection like this...

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who quotes wikipedia -___-
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Sure thing... I'm sure DI was the only thing they changed on it. You lost all credibility when you said you could run 14:1 on pump gas with direct injection.

And let's not mention any downsides to direct injection like this...

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/o...y/DSCN3441.jpg
Where's your proof DI doesn't add HP?!...I'm still waiting for your examples.... I'll excuse your ignorance for now till you do some research on that and get back to me
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Sure thing... I'm sure DI was the only thing they changed on it. You lost all credibility when you said you could run 14:1 on pump gas with direct injection.

And let's not mention any downsides to direct injection like this...

http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/o...y/DSCN3441.jpg
Hey speed demon i see your from Miami, so am I. what car you running?
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Originally Posted by ahritchie
Where's your proof DI doesn't add HP?!...I'm still waiting for your examples.... I'll excuse your ignorance for now till you do some research on that and get back to me
Dfi by its self is not the only reason for the power increase. New engines also have vvt using cam phasers and if they are DOHC they are varible intake and exhaust timing. New article in car and driver showed and interesting approach to fuel efficiency and more power. Basically it would use 2 fuel delivery systems. Dfi and port injection. E85 would be used though the dfi system and regular gas through port injection. E85 makes more power gas is more efficient.
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ask and ye shall receive
http://www.designengineering.com/cat...hilling-system
you can use n2o or co2 with it.. wonder what the results would be
they also make this>
http://www.designengineering.com/cat...genic-fuel-bar
and an air intake cooler>
http://www.designengineering.com/cat...yo2-air-intake
and intercooler coolers

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