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Old 03-08-2012, 09:07 AM
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choosing between le2 ported lt4 heads or afr 210 heads. Will be a boosted setup and want to know how many guys would choose lt4 heads over afr. I know that there are guys who have gone in the 8s on lt4 heads. But what would the big guys do in this situation?

THe car will also see about 8200rpm as well and still be fuel injected. Its a 24x conversion.

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Originally Posted by SPOOLED UP
choosing between le2 ported lt4 heads or afr 210 heads. Will be a boosted setup and want to know how many guys would choose lt4 heads over afr. I know that there are guys who have gone in the 8s on lt4 heads. But what would the big guys do in this situation?

THe car will also see about 8200rpm as well and still be fuel injected. Its a 24x conversion.

thanks
I would do exactly what the "guy who went 8's on LT4 heads" (Sikora) did...switch to AFRs.

I would be more immediately concerened with your valvetrain if you plan to spin 8200 though...shaftmounts, ti parts, lightweight valves, badass valve springs - a few $K just in the valvetrain to keep everything stable at that RPM, especially if your lobes are aggressive.

You will need a BIG head to support that kind of RPMs.
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11 of the top fastest 15 LT1 cars run AFR's. There is a reason for that.

For your goals I would definately go with AFR's. Thicker deck, better casting, great flow #'s, and they are proven to perform. As stated, spend the money on a good valve train for that type of RPM's.



Now I will sit back and wait for the AFR bashers to post up.
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I have a few customers that we built some quick LT engines for. There is no reason NOT to go with AFR's.
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AFR!!! Exactly what I was thinking! thanks guys.
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When your ready to buy the heads, PM me before buying elsewhere
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Originally Posted by MikeFSKSpeed
When your ready to buy the heads, PM me before buying elsewhere
lol I already have the AFR heads. Just thinking about keeping or selling my factory lt4 heads
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Not to hijack but in a boosted application like this how do you choose the propper intake runner size? ie AFR 180s 210s or 227s
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depends on what cubic inch your engine is?
how much power you are looking to get?
Rpm?
how much boost?
street or race only?
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I dont know what the big guys do. but ive had my car 10 yrs and all the guys running the fastest times/breaking records use AFR. Ive been on the boards prolly 8 of those yrs, the bigboys use AFR.

sure there are a few who dont, but the majority all do. Id go for the 210, 220, 215RR setups.
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Originally Posted by SPOOLED UP
depends on what cubic inch your engine is?
how much power you are looking to get?
Rpm?
how much boost?
street or race only?
I already have AFR 227s for my 385 engine; I bought the long block complete so just curious if they are what i should be running.

Looking to make 800hp+ with an F1A/F1R and keep RPM under 7k on a street/strip car.
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i love the 210 afr competions ones i have. and mine spins to 7500.
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holy crap why so much rpm? lol
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IDK I will try to go as high as I can. IF I can do it with 7200RPM I will. But atleast see what I can make of it.
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Originally Posted by SPOOLED UP
choosing between le2 ported lt4 heads or afr 210 heads. Will be a boosted setup and want to know how many guys would choose lt4 heads over afr. I know that there are guys who have gone in the 8s on lt4 heads. But what would the big guys do in this situation?

THe car will also see about 8200rpm as well and still be fuel injected. Its a 24x conversion.

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Afr is a stronger casting. Just look at the decks of both heads and it will be obvious. I have never push a heads gasket out with our Afr. We use std felpro's no copper or mls.

If money is not a problem I would get a set of converted 18* heads.
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AFR210 heads are WAY WAY too small! pinch is less than 2.15", they will start to fall off at 7000 on a N/A 383. I'd get them massaged to at least a 1206 opening and a proper 2.40-2.45 minimum area. 210 head isn't a big dog head really, but you can make it one!
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well they are ported a bit more and are closer to 215s. But if thats the case and wont spin much higher than 7k RPm then I mine as well just sell the AFRS and use the lt4s for now. They will flow closer to 300cfm and go to 7k rpm with ease. Then use the $ from the AFRs and pick up some 227s!!!!

Sounds about right?
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not really, just have the AFR heads properly sized for your application. Sell the LT4s
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well like I said right now they are ported to fit 1206 intake gaskets and so is the intake. So I will start at 6800 rpm and go from there with the power output. I just couldnt figure out I was just gonna use the lt4s for now and sell the afrs then buy 227s later.
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AND didnt Sikora get in the 8s on lt4s?


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