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Old 03-28-2012, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 93z383
lmfao.. come see me and my "stepping stone" anytime... and bring some money. I'm going low 10's all day with under 4k invested. Aftermarket is EVERYWHERE and thriving for LT1's just as much as the LS1's... every god damned part is the same fitment aside from the motor and a few rare things.

The LT1's are anything but dead dinosaurs. Is the LS1 a better motor? Yes, in almost every way. Is the LT1 still kicking *** all over the place? Yes. I'm the fastest car in my all-LS1 car club with the only LT1. Real simple NA build.
When did this turn into a dick measuring contest? And 4k for 10s in an LT1? Sounds like Bullshit to me unless you halfway stole the parts.
Lets talk about intakes. You have the LT1/4, HSR types, and carbs. That's fairly shitty options.
Heads are bountiful, but their design ******* sucks.
Cams? eh.
All the other bullshit? Yeah it's out there.

Does it go over your head when I say it's a bunk, half assed, failure of a design that was made for 6 years? I almost never see a clean or working LT1 nowadays. When I do, it's one of us guys, so it's not a totally bad thing.
All I'm saying here is don't get your panties in a wad over this ****.
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Originally Posted by 93Z2871805
Merv did it with a 95 Z28, then a 98 v6 car, then his Monte SS, and an S10
Haha.. 4 vehicles, and only two different Engines..

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^^^^ glad to see people help instead of arguing. Good luck man
The classic LT1 vs. LS1 argument.

Everyone has their reasons for swapping over, me personally I like the fact I can tune it easily when I mod it, and the LS stuff is easy to work on.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Haha.. 4 vehicles, and only two different Engines..
I still liked the 98 the best though, that was a good looking car.

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Everyone has their reasons for swapping over, me personally I like the fact I can tune it easily when I mod it, and the LS stuff is easy to work on.
For me it was a cheaper way to reach my goal and get rid of the opti.
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If I was starting from scratch Id buy an iron LS simply for the price, the newer ignition, and good tuners in my area.

Merv's 98 was a nice build. If I wasnt so scared of the wiring id have a cammed 6.0 in my 95
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I do miss that car...last time I'll spend $3500 on a paint job tho.

I know you guys are partial the the F-bodies, but trust me the G-body with simple upgrades kicks the **** out of any of my F-bodies..and with the simple suspension work I have done it handles the best out of the vehicles I have built. We've comfortably put 5 people in that car and busted on people..
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Originally Posted by BLK95-Z
If I was starting from scratch Id buy an iron LS simply for the price, the newer ignition, and good tuners in my area.

Merv's 98 was a nice build. If I wasnt so scared of the wiring id have a cammed 6.0 in my 95
Wiring is easy..it really is.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Wiring is easy..it really is.
Your talking to a guy who hasnt wired anything since stereo systems in highschool (1997)
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The LS engines can reach 525-550 HP with heads, cam, intake, exhaust and a tune. More with cubes. It's a better running and more reliable design.

Have a look at number one here: https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...e-posting.html
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chevrolade, the swap can be done but with great effort and some heavy costs.

It would just make more sense to get a '98 and up car to start with. look at '99 and up for the better coil pack mounting, 2000 and up for the ones without EGR valves.

Sell off that tired LT1 car and put the money into the new one.
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Originally Posted by BLK95-Z
Your talking to a guy who hasnt wired anything since stereo systems in highschool (1997)
These are color coded too..

My 1984 Monte Carlo SS had the same colors as my 1998 Camaro..makes things really easy..
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Originally Posted by BLK95-Z
Your talking to a guy who hasnt wired anything since stereo systems in highschool (1997)
Don't feel bad, I stick to wiring up carb'd cars, lol.
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When we were researching wiring it was daunting. When it came down to it I was just connecting A to A, and B to B, etc. There's somewhere over a dozen wires that needed to be connected. It's not bad at all. Just use the pinouts like a map.
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Pretty much. Wire transmits the signal, make it go in the right path.
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Originally Posted by BLK95-Z
Your talking to a guy who hasnt wired anything since stereo systems in highschool (1997)
you have more than enough skills to repin a harness then. You did more wiring doing a stereo then you will repining a harness.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
These are color coded too..

My 1984 Monte Carlo SS had the same colors as my 1998 Camaro..makes things really easy..
My mom had a brand new Monte SS in 1984, I loved that car. Id like to find a nice one to rebuild like you did.

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Don't feel bad, I stick to wiring up carb'd cars, lol.
Now thats my kind of swap

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you have more than enough skills to repin a harness then. You did more wiring doing a stereo then you will repining a harness.
If thats true then it must really be easy. I started doing some research last night on the pin-outs and diagrams. It just looks so complicated for a noob.

I think Im going to give it a try. Look for a huge LT1 sale soon (everything from my 95)
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it's time consuming for sure when you start, but the more you do, you realize how it all goes. remember how long the first stereo took to install, now the same you do blindfolded. same with the harness, just have to start.
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Originally Posted by BLK95-Z
Now thats my kind of swap


Originally Posted by BLK95-Z
It just looks so complicated for a noob.
That's what I said, from what merv has been telling me it's just that simple. I might give it a try next go, but as of right now I just want to turn the key and fire it up. The only thing standing between me and my new project running is wires and I don't want to chase harness problems, I just want to dive into the break in.
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Originally Posted by 93Z2871805
I just want to dive into the break in.
I knew you took sloppy seconds..
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I don't get why everyone thinks a LS swap is so expensive? I picked up my 01 SS donor car for $2800. Had everything I needed to do the swap aside from the Vette fuel filter, 98 temp sensor and repinning of the harness. A good friend of mine did the harness for me and turned out great. Slotted the LT1 Cross member for the 4L60E and its went right into place. As straight forward of a conversion you can get. Plus I made all my money back parting out the LT1 stuff and the rest of the donor car. So I essentially LS1/4L60E swapped my '96Z28 for free..working on a TH350 swap now.
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Some people just don't understand.


I'm in it the same way with the MCSS, I was able to part out my 1998 and the only money invested into the car was the cost of it, all suspension upgrades and other needed parts were paid for by the parts I sold from the silver car.


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