joelster

I'm pretty sure my car would still be in the 10's if it was a few 100lbs heavier but it doesn't matter what it runs to you. It hasn't even made a full clean pass yet, lol. You'll never give it any credit regardless of what it runs. Just think i'm going to add some weight this year too :gasp: and probably shave .3-.4 off. I'm going to try to give Mike a run for his money.
I will agree.....sometimes. When someone asks about something NON-cylinder head related he posts SOME useful info. But when he critiques someone his delivery is all wrong and he usually adds some insults. If it's a performance topic he becomes a rolling advertisement for AI, and will post all of his quick links that he has saved. It gets old. It's as though he can't accept the fact that people will run something different.
I believe I added quite a bit of useful information to this thread . I'll be at the shootout again this year too willing to lend a hand to anyone that needs it. No complaints from me!

SS RRR

iTrader: (2)

The average 4th gen Camaro has a curb weight of 3450lbs. That just a tad more than a few hundred pounds, and whether or not you'd be in the 10's is debatable, but that's neither here nor there. What my point is, is you talking down to "LS1tech EXPERTS" as if you've done something to marvel about. In all out honestly, it really is silly to have that much displacement on a LT1 and you're living proof. Those times could be easily achieved with smaller displacement, and before you start going on how the same thing could be done with mine, I completely agree, but you do not see me trying to toot my own horn here.
Dwayne is abrasive. That's just him. That's how he posts. Complaining about it whenever you get the chance isn't going to change anything. If you or others don't like it, don't read it. Report it if you have to, but the fact of the matter is he can supply good info. Regarding plugging AI, I see him do that on occasion. Not hardly as much as you are exaggerating. Why should you care? AI is a sponsor on this website. He can plug them as much as you plugged Clayton before second guessing whether or not that was a good idea. I like Lingenfelter. It's because I have their heads and they've been fantastic and I plug the **** out of them because they've worked well for me and I'll plug them to others as well as AI. Reason being is they do quality work and have not been caught with their pants down time and time again like another inferior, unmentionable shop.
Basically what it boils down to is stop trying to be such a control freak. Everyone has different ways of communicating and you coming in here complaining about thread content or delivery isn't going to better your cause.

Melkor

Who are you addressing anyways?

BTW I hear the SBC is a new thing.

WS Sick

I got one. I hear there are about 55 million of em.

F0x Slaughter

SBC is over 100 million produced.

WS Sick

Well they made a few since my first one...lol

F0x Slaughter

Eh they have made 1 or 2 more I'd say. Its not like its the worlds best selling blocks or pretty much anything else is compared to.

For that, the Ford 2.3 inline 4 takes the cake right?

WS Sick

Yes , but Ford sucks....lol

F0x Slaughter

I agree. The Ford 2.3l engine is a joke.

Hence the joke of saying SBC isn't the standard when it it really is.

joelster

Huh? I was specifically addressing a question regarding a 4" stroke into an LT1 block and commented about how many "experts" in here (who have NEVER seen one) try to say how bad it is. Do you see the difference? I have the engine, I saw how it was done, I saw how much material was removed from the block and the rods, and then people on here try to tell me how wrong it is, lol. The recip assembly I have will slide right into anyone else's 383 block. Yet "experts" in here will comment about how much more the block needs to be clearanced and they are in fact wrong. I have never once recommended to someone to build a 414 or to put a 4" crank into an LT1. Not once ever. If someone asks if it can be done, I will tell them it is, because obviously it can be done.

Just like you explaining to people how a tranny brake works, lol. Remember that one? You putting your $.02 into something that you had NO GRASP on whatsoever.

I didn't happen to see any 383's or 396's for sale at the time, sorry. This one was available and the price was right. I didn't build it, I didn't order it, but you always seem to overlook that part. I needed a shortblock fast, it was there and the price was very reasonable. It was too good to pass up, and the seller was very cool to deal with.
You know damn well that my car isn't sorted out yet, but whatever. Just another thing that you choose to overlook. I guess it needs to run mid 9's n/a or something, lol. There's a huge difference between guys like me and keyboard guys like you. I'll be at the track and at the shootout, you'll be at your desk.
"On occasion", lol. I'm going to 100% disagree with that, lol. He posts his AI stuff any chance he gets. I still like Clayton products, the shortblock they built for my friend was flawless. Their timetable, not so good. The fact that they support the shootout makes them ok in my book!
Control freak, lol. I've never in my life been accused of that one! I'm usually the guy that likes all of the DIFFERENT builds and DIFFERENT combos out there. If I were a control freak i'd be pushing my own agenda and the parts I like on everyone else. You're way off base there, but you have a habit of twisting a lot of what I say, I'm used to it.

I liked you better with your Richard Simmons avatar! How did you get that again?

SS RRR

iTrader: (2)

It does not read the way you first addressed the question. You make it read as though people were telling you it was silly to have that much stroke.
I'll be in Ocean City this weekend as well as track outings here and there. That's enough for me.
You only see what you want to. Again, why should you care? AI is a sponsor and they support this site. If someone who has direct experience with their products has an opinion then so be it. It's not your call to say he can't share it.
But you are indeed pushing an agenda. Those you want to complain about have experience with certain shops. They have opinions about other shops. They want to share their opinions or, perhaps first hand experience. It's their right to do so and you are trying to stifle their say. It is not your right, as an equal member of this site, to attempt to control that.

Melkor

BTW, just finished it, and there were some really good points brought up in the "Thunderchicken" build thread. It got a bit defensive (don't understand why) and rather than address the questions in a positive way, they were instead cast aside and glossed over with a bit of sales speech. Too bad, could have been a good thread.

The results aren't all that out of the ordinary and I'm not trying to undermine what was done there, but a lot of people have been building LTx platform cars outside the f-body community for some time, and have had some excellent results with them. I made ~530whp with my 396 (would have to look up the actual dyno sheet), with the old AFR 227 head an M6 tranny and a very mild solid roller cam. That was in a 3rd gen RX7 but it the dyno time was to dial in the initial tune. The car was mainly tuned at the track beyond that and picked up a bit in lap times doing so. I never dyno'd it afterwards.

There are a lot of guys in our SCCA club who run LT1's in 1st gen f-bodies, making as much power as being posted here, and the engine builders are not particularly known to be "LTx" specialists...

"Nothing new under the sun"

Puck

iTrader: (17)

That was one of his first runs down the track with his motor. You of all people should know about dialing in a car over time...did you forget about a certain 12 second solid roller 396 we had for a while???

Shhhhh AFR is a bad word on this site. Apparently they are only for bench racers, and stock heads are a better choice.

SS RRR

iTrader: (2)

Regardless it's a bit hypocritical to talk down or use ET's to refer to one's car knowledge when one key reason why a setup is in the 10's at this point in time is because of its curb weight.
It was 11.7's BTW, and are you now saying you can surely dish it out, but can't take it? I think you even had something in your sig about it. What fun it's going to be once you finally un-05HD yourself and actually have a setup that runs.

Melkor

Oh, well you know they must really get their panties in a bunch when searching "AFR" hoping to bitch about it, or tell someone how silly they are for using them, only find Air Fuel Ratio threads!