LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

Is the coolant pipe on back of heads necessary

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 23, 2012 | 10:41 PM
  #1  
cruiser78's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Default Is the coolant pipe on back of heads necessary

I am putting together a new motor I bought to replace my old one and transferring my accessories and stuff over as I only got just the block and heads with the new motor and on the back of the heads where the coolant crossover pipe goes, the holes are blocked off with plugs that are in there really tight. I snapped off a 3/8" to 1/4" adapter in the one (after pulling out a broken end of an adapter that was in their when I bought the motor) so it's pretty tight. I have eliminated the coolant going through the throttle body a long time ago and I believe that is all this coolant line seems to be there for so if I don't put it back on the new motor am I going to be ok or is it going to be bad for the motor? Obviously I'll have to seal off the rad where the hose that connects to this pipe went in but if I can eliminate some more clutter in my engine bay I would be happy... as well as not have to deal with those tight plugs.
Reply
Old May 23, 2012 | 10:54 PM
  #2  
gregrob's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,130
Likes: 4
From: 6,000+ feet
Default

Yes..
Reply
Old May 23, 2012 | 11:00 PM
  #3  
cruiser78's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by gregrob
Yes..
I'm guessing you mean "Yes it's necessary"? Thanks for the quick reply. That's also what I'm finding from searching the net too... o well.. guess I'll have to fight with those tight plugs.
Reply
Old May 23, 2012 | 11:32 PM
  #4  
coreylt1's Avatar
Teching In
 
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Default

get a punch and a hammer and hit the center of the plug a few times with a few solid swings..nothing crazy enough to break anything. it should come right out. little trick i learned working in a machine shop
Reply
Old May 23, 2012 | 11:40 PM
  #5  
cruiser78's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks for the tip, I'll give that a try.
Reply
Old May 24, 2012 | 06:54 AM
  #6  
97Z28SS's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 1,290
Likes: 3
Default

Yes the crossover is necessary otherwise the engine "WILL Overheat" and blow the head gaskets. And if you can't find a stock on you can use AN lines and fittings, that's what I did, plus it just looks better to me.
Reply
Old May 24, 2012 | 07:04 AM
  #7  
shbox's Avatar
TECH Veteran
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,146
Likes: 62
From: Little Rock, AR
Default

Are you sure the heads were not put on the opposite sides and the open holes are now in the front, instead of the back?
Reply
Old May 24, 2012 | 11:06 AM
  #8  
cruiser78's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Default

No, I'm not sure. The front of the heads also have plugs in each if the holes. Does it matter functionally which way the heads go on? The plugs at the back are extremely tight. My 1/4" drive ratchet is twisting. I tried the punch trick and that didn't do it. Any other suggestions?
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 24, 2012 | 11:16 AM
  #9  
whytryz28's Avatar
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,757
Likes: 2
From: Hawaii
Default

Doesn't matter what way as long as the rear of the heads have the coolant crossover tube and the fronts are plugged.
Reply
Old May 24, 2012 | 11:29 AM
  #10  
cruiser78's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Default

That's what I thought. Not sure how I'm going to get those stubborn plugs out. I read of a few people running without that line and one person mentioned that if the car runs cool, it's not as likely to be a problem. My car barely barely gets above the first line on the coolant temp gauge with the computer time I have. I would still like to get that line on there but I'm almost ready to take my chances on it. :S

Last edited by cruiser78; May 24, 2012 at 11:38 AM.
Reply
Old May 24, 2012 | 01:06 PM
  #11  
RamAir95TA's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 9,467
Likes: 8
From: South Jersey
Default

Perhaps you should read about WHY it's there (specifically how it works) and not go blindly hoping that running without it will be alright.

Keep working at getting the plugs out.
Reply
Old May 24, 2012 | 01:18 PM
  #12  
wrd1972's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,668
Likes: 5
From: Central Kentucky
Default

Yes its required and for the reasons for preventing overheating and hot spots like what others here said. If it were not required, GM would not have wasted the X amount of dollars to outfit every LT1 with it. Folks who dont run it just have not encountered the perfect storm of conditions to casue a the failure, yet.
Reply
Old May 24, 2012 | 01:39 PM
  #13  
cruiser78's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Default

I do know now after doing some reading up on it why they are there and that's why I said I was almost ready to take my chances on it. I really don't want to though and if I can't get anything else to work I will probably carefully drill them out and then retap them if necessary as a last resort.

thanks for all the replies so far. I do appreciate the help and keeping me on the right path.
Reply
Old May 24, 2012 | 01:40 PM
  #14  
WS Sick's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,157
Likes: 1
From: Kingfisher Oklahoma
Default

Without it, steam cannot escape the heads.
Reply
Old May 24, 2012 | 01:52 PM
  #15  
guppymech's Avatar
12 Second Club
15 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,621
Likes: 3
From: Chicagoland
Default

Try heating up the heads in the area of the plugs. The aluminum will expand more than the plugs and they should loosen up. Also while the head is hot if you have some parrafin wax touch it to the plugs and it will wick into the threads and act as a lubricant.
Reply
Old May 24, 2012 | 02:23 PM
  #16  
wrd1972's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 4,668
Likes: 5
From: Central Kentucky
Default

Originally Posted by guppymech
Try heating up the heads in the area of the plugs. The aluminum will expand more than the plugs and they should loosen up. Also while the head is hot if you have some parrafin wax touch it to the plugs and it will wick into the threads and act as a lubricant.
Reply
Old May 25, 2012 | 08:37 AM
  #17  
warriorcustoms's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 942
Likes: 1
From: Oklahoma
Default

An Impact Driver is your friend LoL You need the coolant tube just like a 400 sbc needs the steam holes drilled in the heads Its for steam to escape
Reply
Old May 25, 2012 | 09:19 AM
  #18  
cruiser78's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Default

I'm a little leery of using an impact gun with a 1/4" drive adapter that isn't an impact adapter. I already snapped one and it didn't take much to do it. I may try that though.
Reply
Old May 25, 2012 | 09:23 AM
  #19  
TypeSL2's Avatar
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
From: Smyrna, TN
Default

Impact Driver is different than an impact gun. Think screwdriver, but you hit it with a hammer and it twists when you hit it. Google it for a better description.

James
Reply
Old May 25, 2012 | 09:35 AM
  #20  
cruiser78's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
Default

Oh right, I do have one of those too. Never even thought about trying that. Thanks.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:44 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE