Short belt length for bypassing A/C and P/S?
06-14-2013, 12:47 AM
#22
You're only really eliminating the parasitic loss of the PS pump by going beltless. Your AC compressor has a clutch in it so the loss is negligible.
You can either run without a belt and risk killing your battery... or you could just go ahead and delete the AC, PS, and run a lighter battery for some decent weight savings.
You can either run without a belt and risk killing your battery... or you could just go ahead and delete the AC, PS, and run a lighter battery for some decent weight savings.
06-14-2013, 05:05 AM
#23
TECH Resident
Thread Starter
You're only really eliminating the parasitic loss of the PS pump by going beltless. Your AC compressor has a clutch in it so the loss is negligible.
You can either run without a belt and risk killing your battery... or you could just go ahead and delete the AC, PS, and run a lighter battery for some decent weight savings.
You can either run without a belt and risk killing your battery... or you could just go ahead and delete the AC, PS, and run a lighter battery for some decent weight savings.
06-14-2013, 04:29 PM
#25
beltless is a lot more effort than a purpose built manual steering system.
Far as gain by going beltless those who think it meaningless are forgetting the MASS of the accessories being accelerated. It is rotating weight that has to decelerate and accelerate again at each shift.
Beltless has been proven good for a solid tenth sometimes more for a LONG time and is free, all you really need is a decent stock/replacement battery and not get carried away trying to make a bunch of passes before putting the belt back on or otherwise charging the battery. It is a LOT less effort than skinnies and likely near the same gain and again free.
Sure a light battery and rack and pinion setup will shed weight and not hurt driveability but the cost of those things is substantial, they are not the only option for a little gain at the track.
Far as gain by going beltless those who think it meaningless are forgetting the MASS of the accessories being accelerated. It is rotating weight that has to decelerate and accelerate again at each shift.
Beltless has been proven good for a solid tenth sometimes more for a LONG time and is free, all you really need is a decent stock/replacement battery and not get carried away trying to make a bunch of passes before putting the belt back on or otherwise charging the battery. It is a LOT less effort than skinnies and likely near the same gain and again free.
Sure a light battery and rack and pinion setup will shed weight and not hurt driveability but the cost of those things is substantial, they are not the only option for a little gain at the track.
06-19-2013, 10:51 AM
#26
TECH Resident
Thread Starter
beltless is a lot more effort than a purpose built manual steering system.
Far as gain by going beltless those who think it meaningless are forgetting the MASS of the accessories being accelerated. It is rotating weight that has to decelerate and accelerate again at each shift.
Beltless has been proven good for a solid tenth sometimes more for a LONG time and is free, all you really need is a decent stock/replacement battery and not get carried away trying to make a bunch of passes before putting the belt back on or otherwise charging the battery. It is a LOT less effort than skinnies and likely near the same gain and again free.
Sure a light battery and rack and pinion setup will shed weight and not hurt driveability but the cost of those things is substantial, they are not the only option for a little gain at the track.
Far as gain by going beltless those who think it meaningless are forgetting the MASS of the accessories being accelerated. It is rotating weight that has to decelerate and accelerate again at each shift.
Beltless has been proven good for a solid tenth sometimes more for a LONG time and is free, all you really need is a decent stock/replacement battery and not get carried away trying to make a bunch of passes before putting the belt back on or otherwise charging the battery. It is a LOT less effort than skinnies and likely near the same gain and again free.
Sure a light battery and rack and pinion setup will shed weight and not hurt driveability but the cost of those things is substantial, they are not the only option for a little gain at the track.
