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Old 11-08-2012 | 10:09 AM
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Did you ever post a thread or post with your mods? Or are they top secret. Im mostly interested in WHAT is modded, rather than actual specs.
Is this for me?
Old 11-08-2012 | 10:18 AM
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Is this for me?
Yea, I know its an LT1 in an LS1 body, and I know your class, but what mods do you have? What is your trap speed too?
Old 11-08-2012 | 10:28 AM
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The modifications are very limited by rule. The most significant modification for these motors would be any duration camshaft. The most significant modification that I have done is my tuning.

I did post my beliefs and theories about how these cars need to be tuned on this website. The basic response that I got back was that these have all been tried (but now how I did it) and disregarded. That turns out to be true for the ones that attempted it, but it wasn't true for me. The discussion somewhat soured me on talking about what helps and what doesn't.

I think the results of my car at Indy and other heads up races against combos that are superior to mine have proven my theories correct. The mods on my car are secret, but I will say they all fall well within the specs of the rule book. Not all the mods are engine. A great many of them are in the car itself.
Old 11-08-2012 | 10:36 AM
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So no releasing any suspension pieces that have worked/not worked for you? Im not trying to hijack your thread tony, but it seems like Longbob's car/chassis is what you are aiming for with your street stock goals, and with your unmodified engine.
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Originally Posted by bufmatmuslepants
So no releasing any suspension pieces that have worked/not worked for you? Im not trying to hijack your thread tony, but it seems like Longbob's car/chassis is what you are aiming for with your street stock goals, and with your unmodified engine.
No problem about the suspension. I have Afco double adjustable struts in the front and Afco double adjustable shocks in the rear. Stock rear springs with a few spacers on the passenger side. I also have an anti roll bar which helps keep the car level on launch. You can see in the picture how flat the car launches.

I strongly feel that a level launch helps ET. Just imagine how much torque it would take to twist a car. You see a lot of cars that leave with the driver's side front far higher than the passenger side. That takes a lot of torque to do that.

Now imagine that same car with an anti roll bar keeping the car level. What happened to the torque? It is still there. Simple physics says it has to go somewhere. So where did it go?

It left out the rear tires.
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You have a DRAG bar or anti roll bar? Like a dedicated drag bar like the massive ones some people have or just something like a thicker BMR rear sway bar?
Old 11-08-2012 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by longbob
it left out the rear tires.
yeahhhh buddddyy!!! an anti roll bar is on my list!
Old 11-08-2012 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bufmatmuslepants
You have a DRAG bar or anti roll bar? Like a dedicated drag bar like the massive ones some people have or just something like a thicker BMR rear sway bar?
Anti roll bar like this.


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^^^ how much that go for? $500?
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Originally Posted by Longbob
Anti roll bar like this.


HOLY HELL that thing is massive.
Old 11-08-2012 | 11:58 AM
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That is not the exact one I have, but it looks almost identical. I got mine from Phil Mandella. I think it was about $400 and comes in a kit.
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Originally Posted by Longbob
I also have an anti roll bar which helps keep the car level on launch.......

.....I strongly feel that a level launch helps ET.
Absolutely!
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Originally Posted by Longbob
That is not the exact one I have, but it looks almost identical. I got mine from Phil Mandella. I think it was about $400 and comes in a kit.

and for most of us would probably cost another $400 to have installed right.

They compromise street manners because it keeps the rear axle and chassis parallel PERIOD even if one tire falls in a pothole or something.

I am not saying they are bad just saying installation cost money and these are more of a racecar thing than a daily driver thing before everyone with a 12 second bolton car thinks they need one.
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i want the BMR Drag Bar. works well i heard.
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Originally Posted by CamaroRacing12
i want the BMR Drag Bar. works well i heard.
That is what is in Gump.


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haha im stealing ur entire suspension setup lol
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FWIW my old Formula runs the Spohn Drag bar and single adjustable QA1s I got used. 1.47 60's at 3600ish lbs on DRs and has great street manners.

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^^^^ worddd sounds like a good setup thats my plans!
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trz is 600. all bolt in except the tabs the weld to the housing.

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Originally Posted by BIGCAT7274
trz is 600. all bolt in except the tabs the weld to the housing.

That one looks like it would be nice for a true daily driver that you still want to launch!! when you take it to the track. It looks like you could simply remove the link arms for dd use and the car shouldn't drive any worse than having no rear sway bar. (I've been riding around without one for awhile due to laziness and haven't noticed any lack of cornering ability.) Then just bolt the links back up when you hit the track. It also includes a double adjustable panhard rod. That's a nice plus. I also saw that they are on sale right now for only $565.


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