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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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GIZMO, is there any real advantage to running poly LCAs and a rod ended PHB or is that just what you had lying around? Ive got the opposite right now. I also see you are running a short torque arm, LONGBOB, are you running the same?
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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Hey Tony, How quick do you expect to run at Cecil?
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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Hey Tony, How quick do you expect to run at Cecil?
I am hoping for a low 12.2x high 12.1x being close to ur times. I still have no idea how ur car runs the times it does with thst converter and weight!
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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Your really not that far off. Did you say your putting some gears in it?
My S60 is available. I want to go to a 12 bolt so I can work in the direction of a stock eliminator car. I'd be happy to go over my setup with you. By the way ,I have QA1 single adj. front and rear.
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 09:35 PM
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I run a long torque arm.
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 09:43 PM
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longbob and Daren is there a reason for running spacers or drag bags in the right rear? I was under the assumption that with a drag bar or anti roll bar those wouldnt be needed?
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 11:16 PM
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I'm suprised to see no LCA relocation in Gizmo's pic. Are they not allowed, or just not optimal with your ride height, etc?

Also, when is it okay to lose the PHR brace? I see it's gone on Gump. Is there a downside to removing it on a street car?
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bufmatmuslepants
GIZMO, is there any real advantage to running poly LCAs and a rod ended PHB...
Rod ends are not legal in the control arms for Stock Eliminator.


I also see you are running a short torque arm, LONGBOB, are you running the same?
The torque arm in this photo is a BMR Extreme.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 355z28
longbob and Daren is there a reason for running spacers or drag bags in the right rear? I was under the assumption that with a drag bar or anti roll bar those wouldnt be needed?
I have the drag bar at a neutral adjustment and use the air bag and a stiffer passenger spring for pre-load.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 1961ba427
I'm suprised to see no LCA relocation in Gizmo's pic. Are they not allowed, or just not optimal with your ride height, etc?
I experimented with relocation brackets on my Camaro when I built it. Anything but a level lower control arm causes binding. The hit is often pretty hard, but then the tires unload. It is due to the IC being moved back on the torque arm.


Also, when is it okay to lose the PHR brace? I see it's gone on Gump. Is there a downside to removing it on a street car?
On a drag car you don't make any hard turns so it is not needed. I removed mine when I put the car on a diet.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 06:26 AM
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I think I speak for everyone when I say THANK YOU guys for answering our questions.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by GIZMO
I experimented with relocation brackets on my Camaro when I built it. Anything but a level lower control arm causes binding. The hit is often pretty hard, but then the tires unload. It is due to the IC being moved back on the torque arm.




On a drag car you don't make any hard turns so it is not needed. I removed mine when I put the car on a diet.
Gizmo, In stock eliminator can all the rear suspension be aftermarket except for adjustable LCA's ?
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff400w
Gizmo, In stock eliminator can all the rear suspension be aftermarket except for adjustable LCA's ?
You can use aftermarket bolt-in replacement components. The front mount on the torque arm is allowed to be relocated. Mounting points can be beefed-up.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 355z28
longbob and Daren is there a reason for running spacers or drag bags in the right rear? I was under the assumption that with a drag bar or anti roll bar those wouldnt be needed?
I scale my car with individual scales under each tire. Everyone has their preferred bias as to how to load the passenger rear. I do mine with weight which causes that side to sag. There is only one spring rate that comes from GM for these cars that I am aware of so I use spacers to stiffen it up.

Binding is not your friend. Over compensating the pre-load on that side with an anti-roll bar or other suspension pieces will cost you ET and MPH. My goal is to have as little pre-load in the suspension components as possible.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 07:38 AM
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Thanks. I know I'm off the topic but what do you use for a manual steering rack?
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 1961ba427
I think I speak for everyone when I say THANK YOU guys for answering our questions.
These are great questions that everyone is asking and I am giving you what has worked for me. Hopefully, I have written it clearly enough that you can separate fact from my opinions.

I reserve the right to be wrong and can prove it! Hahaha! My stuff works very well and it has come about from a tremendous amount of attention to detail. You wouldn't believe how militant that I am about the cleanliness of my car. I have a lift and I regularly spray Simple Green on the bottom of it then power wash it. That helps me inspect and makes it more pleasurable to work on.

Most of the really eye opening "secrets" that I have stumbled upon have been out of odd mistakes and goof ups. It helps me to stay constantly aware of what is going on good or bad.

That even goes with my driving techniques. How many times have you left the line and looked up at the scoreboard to see your opponents win light on? Well, you just went red and didn't see it as you passed the tree. It is hard for me to see because my car gets up so much.

What do you do when that happens? You have already lost. Do you get pizzed and lift? I know I get a bit pizzed, but I have a couple of seconds to make a decision. Stay pizzed or make the most out of this pass. I don't care how stupid it looks to the crowd, but I will start driving the finish line for practice. And I can say with certainty that it has helped me win some very close races due to practicing in real time.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff400w
Thanks. I know I'm off the topic but what do you use for a manual steering rack?
This is a goodun.

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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 08:00 AM
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Kyle, Is that a kit for the 4th gens.?
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 08:09 AM
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i appreciate all the help as well guys. I know Daren is a great guy have met him many times at the shootout kyle you seem like a great guy as well. Thank you.
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 08:29 AM
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Jeff,

Yes, that is for the 1993 - 2002 F Body.

Tony,

Thank you for the kind words.
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