Ed Wright

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I still work every day Pat. Just no longer have that dyno or shop.
Semi-retired I guess. Just work enough to support what Jeanie calls my money sucking black hole. LOL

SS RRR

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I couldn't agree more, however that is not what was said:

Ed Wright

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And some people think because they didn't see it at their local track or read about it on the internet it never happened. Like everybody posts on the internet, and everything dynoed goes to the race track.

However, out in the real world......

SS RRR

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That's old crumudgen talk, Ed. There were far more people who raced, worked on, and dynoed their cars back then than they do now and resources were plentiful at both the track in talking to people as well as the the local and national message boards. You missed out on a lot of builds back then posted up on boards especially since the DFW and Houston area were known for having some of the fastest f-bodys in the nation.

Ed Wright

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Some of you guys live in your own little world.

SS RRR

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... says the one who believed stock 1996 LT1 cats/exhaust could support 370 N/A rwhp...

1961ba427

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Never had it on a dyno, but my 89 Formula 350 (tpi) car ran 13.8's (13.80 best) with stock long block, trans, convertor, and 3.27 gears. Full weight with a spare battery sitting in the trunk and a 3 ton floor jack for ballast/traction. That is with stock runners/plenum/base that had never been removed. Only mods were cheap Summit (flowtech) 1 5/8" shorty headers and homemade Y-pipe and a smog pump delete.
I know noone cares about TPI cars on here, but I'm just making a point about "factory freak" cars. Never had it on a dyno. 13.8 doesn't sound fast, but for a car that weighed close to the same as a 4th gen and factory rated at 235 HP it was faster than other stock ones around here and makes low to mid 13 second stock LT1's sound perfectly believable.
Also, I remember ACHotrod saying his 96 WS6 running 13.42 I think...when it was stock. His is an M6, but that would still suggest around 300 rwhp.

1961ba427

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I also do not get why anyone is saying it's not right when Ed clearly stressed several times that 290 was extremely rare. I've seen other shops mention the same thing about cars dynoing higher when stock than others and therefore gaining less with a tune or with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator swap compared to other stock cars.
It makes sense to me.

F0x Slaughter

Not an LT1 but the Nissan GT-R35 has a hand assembled engine. It is rated at 478hp for the first models. But there were reports of cars being stock dynoed in the 520 range.

Ed Wright

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If your saying I recommended that for your car, you are now just flat luring.

If you don't think people have made more that that through full stock exhaust you need to look outside your little world. If headers & exhaust picked your car up much more than a tenth, it had a problem. Likely the cats starting to close up.

If you think I was impressed with your car making "high 360s", I was not. It's called "trying to be polite". Would you have preferred I told you "Dude, I think your car is kinda weak"?

I'm done. I think your a little too thick to converse with. Post up any B.S. you want.

SS RRR

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I will. The only time I saw you smile during the entire day was after you saw the final numbers and said you hadn't seen a LPE setup dyno that high, as well as the already mentioned using that tune as a baseline for other related setups. The cats were fine. The car gained a consistent 4mph through the traps going from the stock y-pipe and shorty headers to longtubes and y-pipe. The car was doing as good or better than other LPE setups. You are now going to say stock exhaust on an OBDII f-body car could support 370rwhp N/A? Seriously? I'm sure everyone else who didn't have the money for heads and cam in those days and resorted to gutting out their cats and switched over to better headers which produced outstanding results also had "closed cats." Didn't have anything to do with the motor being choked to death. You are a hoot, Ed.

BTW... I'd still use you as a tuner just because of the countless positive testimonies I've read on this "little world" called the internet as well as the improved MPG my car had after being in your shop.

bowtienut

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OK, seriously, get rid of that gay azz profile pic.
I obviously missed the inside joke behind it. I'm sure it's served its purpose by now. It's old and not doing you any favors. Yeah, I'm prejudiced against flamers.
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.........back to our regularly scheduled debate...

AChotrod

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I dont think he has a choice. The mods put it there last time for trolling if I remember right.

F0x Slaughter

I don't know Ed but it seems to me that his resume would say he knows what he is talking about.

SS RRR

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Right. It was put there after I pissed off someone higher in the food chain who was trying to have a "lets all gather 'round the campfire and guess why I don't post here anymore..." moments.
Good to see you back, BTW.

No doubt. He's forgotten more than I'll ever remember for sure. I respect the snot out of him. He did tell me he used to race with Lingenfelter a long time ago. It's just that I can't accept a factory bone stock f-body auto dynoing 290rwhp. That's just ridiculous.

marc97taws6

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You're alive?!

maromatt

you guys think I should swap over to optisparkII sense im in the middle of this? or just throw a cap and rotor in the stock acdelco ???

SS RRR

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If you aren't having any trouble with the opti now then IMO I wouldn't worry about it. The least I would do is loc-tite the rotor screws if that has never been done.

LT11996

I was also wondering, with the .571/.578 lift of this cam and all of his cams in general, does Lloyd always use 1.6rr for his lift numbers?

duh

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FWIW, my stock engined (long tubes,EWP,CAI) car has gone a best of 13.15@103. According to calculators at 3400 lbs that puts me between 297 and 305 whp. But seeing as I'm only guessing on the weight it's not totally accurate. But I can see how ED says there are freaks that dyno higher. Needless to say when it comes time for a tune ED will be getting my business. Maybe when I get the engine done, I'll have to take a ride for some dyno time as well.