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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 08:03 AM
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I know I'm old, but if I wasn't going to race it I would not put up with a 3200 converter for every day driving. I think he is correct about the 2400 converter. No loss in gas mileage, no elevated Trans fluid temps, almost zero increase in noise. A 2400 Vigilante would allow it to idle in gear easier, and drive as nice as a stock converter. You won't even know it is in there until you get on it. Without slicks, just what are you going to do with a 3200 converter? Do doughnuts if you step on the gas too hard? You have to think about where he is located, and what he is going to be doing with it. Rough roads, no drag strips, etc.
Seems to me he has the right idea.

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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
Flame away. LOL
IIRC the 211/219 cam accommodates a 2400 stall. Only catch is the idle is smooth so it may not appeal to those looking for a rough idle. Torque and power curve behave pretty much the same as stock, only more power and definitely more torque.
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 02:39 PM
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I find it funny how nobody recommends any of the xfi grinds that comp offers. Its always "hotcam" or "cc503". looking for a mild cam i would go with a more aggressive lobe profile that would allow me to have more power but with less overlap and better manners. just my .02
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Old Apr 9, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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Comp Cam 230/236
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
I know I'm old, but if I wasn't going to race it I would not put up with a 3200 converter for every day driving. I think he is correct about the 2400 converter. No loss in gas mileage, no elevated Trans fluid temps, almost zero increase in noise. A 2400 Vigilante would allow it to idle in gear easier, and drive as nice as a stock converter. You won't even know it is in there until you get on it. Without slicks, just what are you going to do with a 3200 converter? Do doughnuts if you step on the gas too hard? You have to think about where he is located, and what he is going to be doing with it. Rough roads, no drag strips, etc.
Seems to me he has the right idea.

Flame away. LOL
Ed, i guess you're the only one understanding me here and what's this Flame away?
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 08:00 AM
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would the cc306 D 290/307 L 510/540 be ok for stock heads? anyone running this cam?
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SwampWS6
would the cc306 D 290/307 L 510/540 be ok for stock heads? anyone running this cam?
I ran it on stock heads, but the heads had a 5 angle valve job on stock valves with light hand intake porting. The car ran hard, but if I had bone stock heads I would run something different.
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Old Apr 10, 2013 | 01:04 PM
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Ed, i guess you're the only one understanding me here and what's this Flame away?
Because most here think bigger is better. Cams, injectors, throttle bodies, etc.
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
Because most here think bigger is better. Cams, injectors, throttle bodies, etc.
lol it seems like everyone wants to spend money at first, and then start reading what they have bought!
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Old Apr 11, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
Your mistaken about the lift deal. We always use more lift than where our head flow peaks. That way the valve spends more time in it's peak flow range, thus flowing more air per cycle. On my flow bench I haven't seen stock LT1 heads "back up" (flow less) as lift is increased past where they peaked, which is around .500". That exact point depends some on the valve job. Even with heads that back up past flow peak lift do not slow down when a cam with more lift is used. That is just another Internet myth.


Well i'm no head flow expert, heck i've never used a flow bench. Just what i've read from D. Vizard on head porting for some head/vlv combos the intake charge will change flow direction at higher vlv lift and sometime loose flow velocity forcing fuel to leave the mix and drip down the sides of the cyl wall - reducing power. Yes reduced/loss of swirl. Again i'm no expert but i read this from those that are and granted this can be different for any head and vlv combo. But Comp Cams LT1 cam selection seem to support this with lifts less than or equal to 0.5" though they have similar durations with more lift for other than stock LT1 heads. Lunati has a selection of moderate lift LT1 cams also as are both of Cranes LT1 cams.

Just my opinion, but had to share this.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 12:05 AM
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2800-3000 stall should be the minimum..
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 04:06 AM
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Vizard races flow benches and writes magazine articles. I do not know one actual race engine builder that agrees with much if what he writes.
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Old Apr 13, 2013 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by SwampWS6
would the cc306 D 290/307 L 510/540 be ok for stock heads? anyone running this cam?
A 290 degree cam ain't no "mild" cam. More like a full race cam.

So here i am spilling my guts for a troll with 8 posts.

Good buy,
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It's a puzzle for me why people instead of reading two maybe three articles start asking questions. Well for me it's not so easy to translate everything to russian, but hey, you speak this language every minute, i don't understand such people.
P. S. Sorry for off topic.
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cardo0
A 290 degree cam ain't no "mild" cam. More like a full race cam.

So here i am spilling my guts for a troll with 8 posts.

Good buy,
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That's the advertised duration. Not the duration at .050.

The CC306 is not a full race cam. It treated me quite well on stock heads.
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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"Race cam"
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RamAir95TA
"Race cam"
Start down low with a 350 cube, three and a quarter horsepower, 4-speed, 4:10 gears, ten coats of competition orange, hand-rubbed lacquer with a huplane manifold. Full ******' race cams. Whoo!
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by nascarnate326
What does this even mean?

There is NOTHING wrong with the hotcam. For a GM made kit, its perfect for a large number of people. What does old tech have to do with anything? It makes less power by 10 than a new tech cam?
What you think because it's an lt1 tech does not evolve? Lol when the hot cam came out it was a common belief that you couldn't run LSA's below 112-110 on our engines. The hot cam has lazy ramp rates. It came out when people were still figuring out this engine. Many things have been learned since then, many things have been applied to lt cam design since then. Ask an expert if you want a more detailed answer than that our just don't believe me.
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by z_speedfreak
It came out when people were still figuring out this engine.
The "hotcam" profile has been around since the beginning of time. With the right heads/gearing/bolt-on's a hotcam setup is very capable of what you normally see today with comparable setups.
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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I have been researching the cc306 myself! Im definitely looking at roller rockers, valvesprings, rods, etc. But a friend of mine is pushing me to get a 3500 stall. What do you guys think.
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