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Old May 16, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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I wonder how many people complaining have ever built anything or could spec a cam with anything other than advertised duration...

You have a baby cam and you still on the stock ten bolt. They are the biggest restrictions to a good ET.

What did the car dyno? suspension?

If the car is tune already and lined out, I say run it with a soft launch and see where you are.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
is this a joke?

whether you think it is or not it IS A JOKE.

Don't bother taking it to the track, the only result will be your feelings being hurt.
We get it. You put a package on your car designed by someone else and the car ran well for what it is. Really man STFU.

The OP is clearly not too knowledgeable and isnt acting like he does so no need to be a *****.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by w3s1c0a5t
We get it. You put a package on your car designed by someone else and the car ran well for what it is. Really man STFU.

The OP is clearly not too knowledgeable and isnt acting like he does so no need to be a *****.
THanks bud i just got into this car stuff with the help of my buddies and they all say to put a 12 bolt and qa1 in the car and it will run , it has been tuned by a guy name ion in illinios the motor could use a bigger cam but i am on a budget with having two daughters anybody no someone who has a 12 bolt for sale close to illinios outside of chicago
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Old May 16, 2013 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by See U Later 4
Thanks bud i just got into this car stuff with the help of my buddies and they all say to put a 12 bolt and qa1 in the car and it will run , it has been tuned by a guy name ion in illinios the motor could use a bigger cam but i am on a budget with having two daughters anybody no someone who has a 12 bolt for sale close to illinios outside of chicago
Personally, I like the fact you will go with a bigger cam, any ideas on what cam yet?

Also, depending on how you like to do it, I'm the kind of guy that will ride my 10 bolt to the day it snaps, then go with a 12 bolt. But I have a car trailer to load it on and take it home with also.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 05:20 PM
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People who think displacement makes power build poor performing cars. Displacement can support more head and cam which is what makes power.

Then even the guys who like AFR will tell you not to bother with anything under their 210stuff.

I am going to call this mid/high 12s with a decent hook, a 13.0 wouldn't surprise me one bit. If it does 110mph I will be floored.


I know I am a jerk for calling a spade a spade but if you think I am an *** go and run it and see who has a clue.

People would have cheaper and more successful builds if they worried about what worked more than sounding cool because they have all the parts they saw in a magazine.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
People who think displacement makes power build poor performing cars. Displacement can support more head and cam which is what makes power.

Then even the guys who like AFR will tell you not to bother with anything under their 210stuff.

I am going to call this mid/high 12s with a decent hook, a 13.0 wouldn't surprise me one bit. If it does 110mph I will be floored.


I know I am a jerk for calling a spade a spade but if you think I am an *** go and run it and see who has a clue.

People would have cheaper and more successful builds if they worried about what worked more than sounding cool because they have all the parts they saw in a magazine.
My buddy who built the car did run and it ran a 12.60 with it spinning because of no traction it has 2.6 sixty foot time it should be with a rear end and shocks around a 1.8 sixty foot time u do the math and just to let u know when the car is done i will be glad to put a hurtin on that car of urs too
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:01 PM
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oh and thats with a weak *** cam lmao caprice who drives them ugly *** cars anyway
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:07 PM
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oh and thats with a weak *** cam lmao caprice who drives them ugly *** cars anyway
Don't pick this fight please
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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I was just asking a simple question and not looking for some body to down grade everything about my car
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by See U Later 4
I was just asking a simple question and not looking for some body to down grade everything about my car
I understand, but you can't take it personally. There's nothing to prove here.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BOOSTED AFR
I understand, but you can't take it personally. There's nothing to prove here.
This would get ugly for no reason at all. Just build the car and run it. Then let the numbers do the talking.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:28 PM
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you guys are right I was just looking for some answer thanks for the help and once i am done i will post pics and timeslips hope it goes well for my first time and not knowing ****
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by w3s1c0a5t
I wonder how many people complaining have ever built anything or could spec a cam with anything other than advertised duration...

You have a baby cam and you still on the stock ten bolt. They are the biggest restrictions to a good ET.

What did the car dyno? suspension?

If the car is tune already and lined out, I say run it with a soft launch and see where you are.
thanks for your advice
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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You need to do research instead of just taking advice from one or two people.. even if they're your friend(s). Even if you talk to professionals in the cam industry (for example) - you'll definitely get 5 radically different responses from 5 different people.. all of which MIGHT work; some of which may work better than others. You need to ask yourself what you're wanting out of your car, and plan appropriately. If making fast cars was an easy thing to do, then everyone would have one.

Don't make a cookie-cutter build or you'll just end up with a subpar ride and nothing to show for it.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 93M6Formula
Didn't say it was said or implied here, I was simply stating the mentality a lot of people have when they think 383 stroker. Not trying to bash the OP.
That's confusing. You come into this thread responding to someone saying to relax about the OP's build while you "rant" in saying that most everyone cannot plan a build. What's the point of your post if it isn't directed at the OP?
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Old May 16, 2013 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by See U Later 4
My buddy who built the car did run and it ran a 12.60 with it spinning because of no traction it has 2.6 sixty foot time it should be with a rear end and shocks around a 1.8 sixty foot time u do the math and just to let u know when the car is done i will be glad to put a hurtin on that car of urs too

smells like bullshit.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by See U Later 4
thanks for your advice
No thing.

If the car is already buttoned up, stick with the idea to get the rear end and suspension laid out. Once the car has the right parts in the drivetrain and you dial it in, make the call if you want more power.

If your happy with all the characteristics of the motor, you can always add a nitrous kit to the mix.

As some have said the motor could have been built to make more power but get the car lined first and then you can game plan on either a new cam or a more radical top end.

I don't see any reason the car can't go 11's with the right converter and chassis.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
smells like bullshit.
I have no problem proving your internet expert advice wrong , i probally have way more motor then you will ever have but thats okay haters can hate no big deal by the way the video of your caprice classic 383 the car will easily go into the elevens with a 12 bolt not a issue at all you can bet on it hell you can even come out to union grove and watch me do it
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Old May 17, 2013 | 03:57 PM
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mine is not a 383, are you ASSuming that or just trying to make **** up? I spent money on the topend instead of the bottomend because I UNDERSTAND how to make power.

a rough rule is .1 60ft equals .15(or more) at the other end which would suggest low 11s from your car IF the 2.6 and 12.6 were honest. I believe you believe that, I believe you were told that. Hell I would even believe your buddy was reading the wrong lane.
A mid 11 second car should 60ft a solid second better than what you posted not 1.8.

But take that 1.8 and apply the .1 equals .15 at the other end rule and you have 11.4 with a 1.8 60ft. BUT a 11.4 second car is likely to actually pull 1.5s.................
Your story doesn't add up.

If you want to run it I would hurry too, that Deltech is not particularly reliable and last I heard service parts were unavailable because the owner was ill.



Originally Posted by w3s1c0a5t
We get it. You put a package on your car designed by someone else and the car ran well for what it is. Really man STFU.

The OP is clearly not too knowledgeable and isnt acting like he does so no need to be a *****.
You didn't mean to but you supported me with this statement. I didn't do anything but CHOOSE ACTUALLY GOOD PARTS and bolt them together competently. Meaning I actually have a clue what works. I screwed up a lot before I got it right but I eventually got it right because I LEARN FROM MISTAKES rather than blindly defend them as so many others do.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
mine is not a 383, are you ASSuming that or just trying to make **** up? I spent money on the topend instead of the bottomend because I UNDERSTAND how to make power.

a rough rule is .1 60ft equals .15(or more) at the other end which would suggest low 11s from your car IF the 2.6 and 12.6 were honest. I believe you believe that, I believe you were told that. Hell I would even believe your buddy was reading the wrong lane.
A mid 11 second car should 60ft a solid second better than what you posted not 1.8.

But take that 1.8 and apply the .1 equals .15 at the other end rule and you have 11.4 with a 1.8 60ft. BUT a 11.4 second car is likely to actually pull 1.5s.................
Your story doesn't add up.

If you want to run it I would hurry too, that Deltech is not particularly reliable and last I heard service parts were unavailable because the owner was ill.





You didn't mean to but you supported me with this statement. I didn't do anything but CHOOSE ACTUALLY GOOD PARTS and bolt them together competently. Meaning I actually have a clue what works. I screwed up a lot before I got it right but I eventually got it right because I LEARN FROM MISTAKES rather than blindly defend them as so many others do.
I am done with this post as far as i am concern but i will be glad to get a hold of u the next time we go the track either union grove or bryon if you can make it i will be glad to show you in person how the car runs it will be a low eleven second car on the "CAtlogparts" period hell if you cannot make i will send you a link to watch the video and that will be on motor no spray or blowers even though the motor can handle both... 383 stroker je pistons forged eagle crank eagle rods trick flow rockers afr heads and yeah that shitty deltech system
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