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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 03:49 PM
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hey, if it peaks before 7k then awesome. I've always heard you want to spin it that high to get the power out of it. Maybe i read that from 96caprice, so...
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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Yes ive heard alot of mixed results and i know every motor is diff.mine is perfectly happy at 6500 and i have a fairly well set of stock ported heads. Just wana try the cam and get my own results and have some fun. The zl1 cam i put in my 482 shoulda been a mistake also but it turned out real nice.
So you do have some mods that would support it... So when I said:

Originally Posted by jewbacca
What kind of mods do you have to support an 847? Just want to make sure you have to spin that thing to 7000 to hit it's peak power. And you'll probably be losing power down low. If it's the sound your after a custom grind can sound plenty nasty, and actually make power where you need it.
Instead of saying:

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Can anyone on this damn website just say yes i have one for sale or no i do not have one? It doesnt matter if i have a bone stock 300,000 mile lt1 roadmaster wagon or a nelson built 414 badass!!!!! All im doing is asking if someone has a used cheap 847 i donot need one. I want one just to throw in and get my own opinion of it. Thank guys im not trying to be an *** but this is all this site does any more. C'mon
A simple, "This is not a stock engine" would have been sufficient.

You do realize that most of the guys coming on here asking about an 847 are kids with their first V8 wanting to make their car sound like one they saw in a YouTube video... So coming on here saying that you're looking for an 847 will usually get comments from people trying to stop someone without as much knowledge from making a mistake that countless others have made.

It'd be interesting to see what kind of power your NOT STOCK engine would make (since I have a similar set up).
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 94blackz
always heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I read it a few times from some guys on here who have run that same cam.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jewbacca
So you do have some mods that would support it... So when I said:



Instead of saying:



A simple, "This is not a stock engine" would have been sufficient.

You do realize that most of the guys coming on here asking about an 847 are kids with their first V8 wanting to make their car sound like one they saw in a YouTube video... So coming on here saying that you're looking for an 847 will usually get comments from people trying to stop someone without as much knowledge from making a mistake that countless others have made.

It'd be interesting to see what kind of power your NOT STOCK engine would make (since I have a similar set up).
I didnt know i needed to pass a test before i could buy a cam.never asked for advice.nor asked to share engine info. Instead of jumping in head first with questions or answers to something all you have done is read about rather then run. I would start off with a softer aproch.one of my best friends ran that cam for 6 years in a bone stock 93 even had manifolds it sucked till he got his tune figured out then it ran hard. 6 speed with 3.91s out back and would mauhl tire at 1500 rpms in 2nd gear and hold you in the seat till the speed got scary. He shifted at 6200did he use his cam to its full potential nope was it fast yep was it fun yep.i have a lil more motor then he did.and hope it runs as well.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 04:16 PM
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If i wanted a race care i would have a huge turbo. This car if my to fun car had three this one is black and runs right with a couple of the ls cars around. Its two hrs to the strip in any direction it is just a fun weekend toy. Thats why im collecting a few used parts to do a lil testing with who knows i may even get luck and it will run better when im done.if not ill try something else but i will be able to speak from experience. I know guys who hate the hot cam and the 503. I would not tell anyone what to expect from them because i havent run them (yet). Advice is always a good tool but theres enuff threads on the 847 and 306 that ive read ill just be my own judge
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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I didnt know i needed to pass a test before i could buy a cam.never asked for advice.nor asked to share engine info. Instead of jumping in head first with questions or answers to something all you have done is read about rather then run. I would start off with a softer aproch.one of my best friends ran that cam for 6 years in a bone stock 93 even had manifolds it sucked till he got his tune figured out then it ran hard. 6 speed with 3.91s out back and would mauhl tire at 1500 rpms in 2nd gear and hold you in the seat till the speed got scary. He shifted at 6200did he use his cam to its full potential nope was it fast yep was it fun yep.i have a lil more motor then he did.and hope it runs as well.
You seriously think I'm going to go back through your past posts to see what you have? A signature helps out a lot with that... Just saying. And like I said, most new people posting up lately don't really know what they're looking for. You obviously have more knowledge that most... Simply saying it's not a stock engine instead of sounding like an *** (your words) and complain that people were trying to give you advise in a TECH section would have been sufficient.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 04:28 PM
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It's not the worst cam you could use. The guy I sold my 2 year old blueprinted 355" to put one in a '95 M6 car with a set of Lloyd's heads and Hooker long tubes, I tuned it for him. Made 455 rwhp, and peaked well before 7000. LOL
He road races the car, and I hear it's pretty fast.
I would be VERY interested in the details of this setup! That sounds like a TON of fun even when used for drag racing and street driving!
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jewbacca
You seriously think I'm going to go back through your past posts to see what you have? A signature helps out a lot with that... Just saying. And like I said, most new people posting up lately don't really know what they're looking for. You obviously have more knowledge that most... Simply saying it's not a stock engine instead of sounding like an *** (your words) and complain that people were trying to give you advise in a TECH section would have been sufficient.
My bad not a great computer guy i do all this from my phone and dont know how to do all the sig stuff ill post my ad in the parts wanted so i dont ruffle everyons feathers we have wasted an hr when we coulda been bouncing off rev limiters and grabbing gears.sorry i came across to you the way you did to me.
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Originally Posted by duh
I would be VERY interested in the details of this setup! That sounds like a TON of fun even when used for drag racing and street driving!
Yes 455 is nasty id guess really good heads a light bottom end and some compression
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Originally Posted by duh
I would be VERY interested in the details of this setup! That sounds like a TON of fun even when used for drag racing and street driving!
It was the 355" short block I drove every day for two years in my black '96 TA before I built the old 383".

Stock crank and rods, SRP pistons, .043", .043", 3/16" low tension rings, block machined by the guy that did my race engine machining for about ever, Carroll Caudle at Carroll's Engine & Machine in Amarillo, TX. Honing is a big deal.
The guy that bought it from me put that cam, a set of Lloyd Elliot heads on it, 30lb red top Ford injectors and 1 3/4" Hooker long tubes. It had 4.10 gears and a manual Trans. No magic. Proper machine work, correct pistons & rings, nothing trick. Hp peaked about 6600.

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Originally Posted by 94blackz
My bad not a great computer guy i do all this from my phone and dont know how to do all the sig stuff ill post my ad in the parts wanted so i dont ruffle everyons feathers we have wasted an hr when we coulda been bouncing off rev limiters and grabbing gears.sorry i came across to you the way you did to me.
No hard feelings. And my bad for jumping to conclusions. Not sure how to do a sig on the phone... Might have to change to the desktop version of the site.

I'd love to see what you have done, it's fun seeing some of the stuff people put together (when they know what they're doing that is, lol).
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It was the 355" short block I drove every day for two years in my black '96 TA before I built the old 383".

Stock crank and rods, SRP pistons, .043", .043", 3/16" low tension rings, block machined by the guy that did my race engine machining for about ever, Carroll Caudle at Carroll's Engine & Machine in Amarillo, TX. Honing is a big deal.
He put that cam, a set of Lloyd Elliot heads on it, 30lb red top Ford injectors and 1 3/4" Hooker long tubes. It had 4.10 gears and a manual Trans. No magic. Proper machine work, correct pistons & rings, nothing trick. Hp peaked about 6600.
That would be a fun engine to run.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 94blackz
My bad not a great computer guy i do all this from my phone and dont know how to do all the sig stuff ill post my ad in the parts wanted so i dont ruffle everyons feathers we have wasted an hr when we coulda been bouncing off rev limiters and grabbing gears.sorry i came across to you the way you did to me.
Well it wont let me post in the parts wanted so i guess ill keep an eye on CL and if anyone one here knows of one maybe they will let me know the 847 is not the only cam im looking for just the most elusive lol
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Originally Posted by 94blackz
Well it wont let me post in the parts wanted so i guess ill keep an eye on CL and if anyone one here knows of one maybe they will let me know the 847 is not the only cam im looking for just the most elusive lol
What's your price range on the cam? I know you were talking about custom grinds, and Lloyd has one of his shelf cams that's very close to it (with newer lobe profiles ).
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jewbacca
What's your price range on the cam? I know you were talking about custom grinds, and Lloyd has one of his shelf cams that's very close to it (with newer lobe profiles ).
Id like to pick one up in the 150-200 to my door range got a 503 for 100 still got a few more to round up i just like old school stuff ive talked to lloyd a couple times and he is a VERY smart nice man and i feel like im wasting his time when i call because i onow hes busy as hell and has alot more goin on then my junk. If i ever do go custom it will deff be from him outa all the guys ive called he was the only one that called me back and even emaild me lated with a couple pointers for me he has my biusness. Just hate to start down that road lol it has no end.
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Originally Posted by jewbacca
Hey, if it peaks before 7k then awesome. I've always heard you want to spin it that high to get the power out of it. Maybe I read that from 96Caprice, so...
LOL The birth-grounds of internet myths.
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LOL The birth-grounds of internet myths.
Lmao. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. But what if?
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If i hadnt built alot of motors and seen so many diff results from combos id probly go with the majority crowd on these topics also but ive been schooled a few times thru the years and have found it aint true till you do it your self.( alot of motors doesnt mean im a pro engine builder just done alot of playing )
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I don't understand people feeling qualified to give advice based on what they "have always heard" or read on the Internet, instead of what they have actually done. It's damn sure common here.
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