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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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It was the 355" short block I drove every day for two years in my black '96 TA before I built the old 383".

Stock crank and rods, SRP pistons, .043", .043", 3/16" low tension rings, block machined by the guy that did my race engine machining for about ever, Carroll Caudle at Carroll's Engine & Machine in Amarillo, TX. Honing is a big deal.
The guy that bought it from me put that cam, a set of Lloyd Elliot heads on it, 30lb red top Ford injectors and 1 3/4" Hooker long tubes. It had 4.10 gears and a manual Trans. No magic. Proper machine work, correct pistons & rings, nothing trick. Hp peaked about 6600.
Now this seems very easy and very budget friendly to replicate! Might be down on RWHP due to the auto in my car, but definitely worth doing! I love learning from the guys that actually go fast!
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
I don't understand people feeling qualified to give advice based on what they "have always heard" or read on the Internet, instead of what they have actually done. It's damn sure common here.
Agreed x1,000,000. How many times did you tune on cars before you got to where you are today? Thank you for knowing what you know and having the passion to do what you do. Its men like you that keep us hot rodders in this situation pushing on my friend.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 08:43 PM
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
I don't understand people feeling qualified to give advice based on what they "have always heard" or read on the Internet, instead of what they have actually done. It's damn sure common here.
And that's why I'll admit I was wrong. Plain and simple.

But I will say my "always heard" comment was more from people I've known having experience with this cam, than something I "read on the internet". But since it wasn't my own personal experience, I'll defer to those who know more!
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 10:17 PM
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There is a guy at my local track with a full bolt on lt1 gears and stall. His car sounds mean an all get out. However he is running a comp 306 cam on stock heads.

Needless to say my Hotcammed car gets wayy better times than him and I'm also in a stick.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jewbacca
And that's why I'll admit I was wrong. Plain and simple.

But I will say my "always heard" comment was more from people I've known having experience with this cam, than something I "read on the internet". But since it wasn't my own personal experience, I'll defer to those who know more!
Your a good guy its easy to get caught up in the main stream ive done it a bunch. Im only 33 and made a pile of mistakes that would fill a stadium. My spelling being one of them lol. If you have anthing you have learnd thru the years you would care to share pm me im fairly unexperianced with lt motors ive always been a big block chevy and mopar guy. Just really love these f bodies got into the tuned port motors for a while back in the lat 90s early 2000s but lts have such a wide platform and parts availabilty to work from im hooked have been since 2008
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HarleyZ28
There is a guy at my local track with a full bolt on lt1 gears and stall. His car sounds mean an all get out. However he is running a comp 306 cam on stock heads.

Needless to say my Hotcammed car gets wayy better times than him and I'm also in a stick.
A hotcam car is one nasty ride set up and tuned right. That is probly my favorite set up. That is o e of the cams im looking for also i used to drive my buddies camaro with the hotcam nearly every weekend it was a pullin ***** anyone who dont like the hotcam is either unexperienced with it or just mis informed for a street strip cam
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:27 PM
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A hotcam car is one nasty ride set up and tuned right. That is probly my favorite set up. That is o e of the cams im looking for also i used to drive my buddies camaro with the hotcam nearly every weekend it was a pullin ***** anyone who dont like the hotcam is either unexperienced with it or just mis informed for a street strip cam
That's the cam I run in my car! Got a set of ported heads, and it runs really strong. I know a custom grind would make more power, but I couldn't find a billet cam for the same price, plus it makes plenty of power for me right now. Currently I'm collecting parts to swap in a turbo 5.3. I know the LT1 can make serious power, but it's damn hard to match the bang for the buck of the newer engines.
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Old Aug 12, 2013 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jewbacca
That's the cam I run in my car! Got a set of ported heads, and it runs really strong. I know a custom grind would make more power, but I couldn't find a billet cam for the same price, plus it makes plenty of power for me right now. Currently I'm collecting parts to swap in a turbo 5.3. I know the LT1 can make serious power, but it's damn hard to match the bang for the buck of the newer engines.
The lt4 hotcam is a great cam in my opinion.drove many of them. However not had my own. But that will change soon. Probly before anything else lol cant find a cheap 306 or an 847 its amazing they are so hated yet nobody will turn loose of them! I have a couple friends that swear by the lt4 hotcam kit. May order the whole kit and give it a whirl who knows i may be hooked. And from the way you described your car it sounds like a winner in my book. Just dont be scared to look for a deal to tey something new you can always go back. But for your 5.3 terbo swap lts will be a thing of the past for you. They are nasty i have a good friend with a few real clean 5.3s layin in his shop he went 6.0 if i can help you out with anything pm me be glad to help
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The lt4 hotcam is a great cam in my opinion.drove many of them. However not had my own. But that will change soon. Probly before anything else lol cant find a cheap 306 or an 847 its amazing they are so hated yet nobody will turn loose of them! I have a couple friends that swear by the lt4 hotcam kit. May order the whole kit and give it a whirl who knows i may be hooked. And from the way you described your car it sounds like a winner in my book. Just dont be scared to look for a deal to tey something new you can always go back. But for your 5.3 terbo swap lts will be a thing of the past for you. They are nasty i have a good friend with a few real clean 5.3s layin in his shop he went 6.0 if i can help you out with anything pm me be glad to help
Thanks for the offer. I may have to take you up on it! After this weekend I will have everything for the swap besides the engine (), PCM, and k-member. I'm figuring I'll go with a tubular k-member to make the piping easier to mount.

Yeah, buying the whole kit makes things a lot simpler. I ended up going with just the cam (the heads I got already had good springs). Thing I love about the hotcam for the street is how quickly it makes power (at least to me it does). If I'm not careful I'll blow my 315's away at 40 mph! Definitely a bitchin street cam!
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 12:19 AM
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Thanks for the offer. I may have to take you up on it! After this weekend I will have everything for the swap besides the engine (), PCM, and k-member. I'm figuring I'll go with a tubular k-member to make the piping easier to mount.

Yeah, buying the whole kit makes things a lot simpler. I ended up going with just the cam (the heads I got already had good springs). Thing I love about the hotcam for the street is how quickly it makes power (at least to me it does). If I'm not careful I'll blow my 315's away at 40 mph! Definitely a bitchin street cam!
Yep there a blast i just like to see what i can get outa stuff may just get a hotcam cheap and do some rocker ratio swapping to never really read much on those outcomes maybe try a 1.7 1.6 combo and try some degreeing too.
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 12:47 AM
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When I tell people I'm running a LT1 with a hotcam they pretty much shrug there shoulders at me.

I have a powerstick chambered muffler dumped at rear axel. It has a super tame idle compared to the bigger cams.

I usually shift at 6400 rpms at the track, I can take it to 6500 but I feel there isnt much of a gain.

The funny thing is my car isnt even dyno tuned. Still on the PCMforless mail in order. My best pass so far is 12.4 @ 113 on a 1.9 sixty. ( mickey thompson et street radials ) on a stick shift car. Im willing to bet once I put a bias ply drag tire and get a 1.7- 1.6 sixty I will have an 11.9x pass.
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 07:54 AM
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Good read Brandon..pretty funny stuff in here...
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 94blackz
...... cant find a cheap 306 or an 847 its amazing they are so hated yet nobody will turn loose of them!.......
Actually, they are both very good cams.

Unfortunately, people get caught up with the notion that 'a bigger cam is a better cam'.....and that just ain't true. There are a number of factors that will make running a big cam as being the thing to do......while those same factors (with different specs) could make a smaller cam a better option.

Once you get to the point where you understand the science of the internal combustion engine, you can understand how/why a moderately sized Hot cam can out-perform the big, burley 847 cam when they both are run in the same engine where the only thing changed were the cams and maybe the tune.

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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 10:16 AM
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Depends on the car. Would I put one in a big-assed B body with a street converter & gears? Of course not.
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
Depends on the car. Would I put one in a big-assed B body with a street converter & gears? Of course not.
Right. Because you've actually put together combos and know what works and what doesn't from experience. The other 85% of people on here are just parrots that are typing "things" they've heard instead of picking up a wrench and figuring it out for themselves.
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Originally Posted by draggin97s10
Right. Because you've actually put together combos and know what works and what doesn't from experience. The other 85% of people on here are just parrots that are typing "things" they've heard instead of picking up a wrench and figuring it out for themselves.
Yep ive had people tell me what i was doing was dumb and would never work and then spanked there *** at the track. And next time i ran into them they was askin questions.
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If the 847 peaked at 6600 you'll still have to shift at about 6800-6900 for BEST performance. Yay or Nay? That's still kinda risky with the STOCK shortblock
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Old Aug 13, 2013 | 06:20 PM
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We turn them that high with stock cranks & rods all the time.

Not my favorite cam, but better than some want to make it out to be. Guess they know more than GM engineers. LOL
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Originally Posted by Ed Wright
We turn them that high with stock cranks & rods all the time.

Not my favorite cam, but better than some want to make it out to be. Guess they know more than GM engineers. LOL
Yeah, I've seen a couple cars run it at the track. Pretty wicked sounding cam, and it was making those cars move! Isn't it also a good cam for nitorus?

I think my engine was turned to 7 quite a few times by the previous owner, and it's still running plenty strong in my car. I'd feel comfortable getting close to that on occasion if I had a cam that made power up there. I know I pegged the tach a couple times on accident downshifting before I pulled the rev limiter back and haven't had any issues.
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