LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 08:46 PM
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Wow man, I'm subscribing, sweet car brother!
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 09:13 PM
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Subscribed! That is one clean engine. Well, everything except that #8 cylinder. What happened there?
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 09:23 PM
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Subscribed! That is one clean engine. Well, everything except that #8 cylinder. What happened there?
Oh, that's easy, lol! Old fuel, boost, rpms, whiskey and total lack of give a damn (hence whiskey). She went lean detonated and popped a piston and scattered a rod, lol! I think I'm in the ball park.
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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 09:44 PM
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Looks a hell of a lot better then my car did after sitting for 3 years!!!
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 10:31 AM
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Excellent destruction, 5 stars, will await shiny parts.
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon@BruteSpeed
And it just hit 6000 miles. That factory engine was a good test bed for EPP & Brutespeed.
Hey that's longer than most stock LT1's handle boost.

Congrats(?) on the new build!
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 11:26 AM
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The splayed mains look badass
Cleannn car can't wait to see what you bring to the table man!
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicious95Z28
Oh, that's easy, lol! Old fuel, boost, rpms, whiskey and total lack of give a damn (hence whiskey). She went lean detonated and popped a piston and scattered a rod, lol! I think I'm in the ball park.
Pretty much spot on.
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ahritchie
Hey that's longer than most stock LT1's handle boost.

Congrats(?) on the new build!

I'll take the congrats!! It's long overdue.
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 08:24 AM
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wow I'm glad to see this car back, I remember seeing it in GMHTP. I thought it had died long ago, I'm in the process of doing a D1SC on my bone stock LT1 engine also and glad to see that I'm not completely insane. Hope it holds up..
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Old Feb 13, 2016 | 10:54 AM
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Congrats on the rekindled interest. The same thing happened to me and I'm glad I rebuilt the beast.

And the silver LT1 Formula is truly the nicest body style ever made....keep us updated with your progress...
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Old Feb 13, 2016 | 03:37 PM
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Congrats on the rekindled interest. The same thing happened to me and I'm glad I rebuilt the beast.

And the silver LT1 Formula is truly the nicest body style ever made....keep us updated with your progress...
Thanks and will do. Pulling the car off the lift this next week so I can pull the rearend and get the 4:30's replaced. The Callies crank is still a month out so it gives me time to get some other stuff done.
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You seem like a smart feller. At what point do stock 2 bolt mains become a liability? How much stronger are factory 4 bolt mains (I run one)? How much stronger yet are splayed mains? I just wonder how strong a short skirted block is.
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Old Feb 13, 2016 | 06:15 PM
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It's nice to know you're rebuilding the LT1. I was in the same situation a few years back, when a pushrod gave out during dyno session. It came to a debate on either building a stroker 383, a 396 LT1, or go to the dark side,....long story short, I'm just about done with my 416 LS3 build! Anyhow, good luck with your new build.
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Old Feb 14, 2016 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Supercharged111
You seem like a smart feller. At what point do stock 2 bolt mains become a liability? How much stronger are factory 4 bolt mains (I run one)? How much stronger yet are splayed mains? I just wonder how strong a short skirted block is.
I have seen many 2 bolt blocks produce more than 500 rwhp without any problems. You will not find a consistent answer when the 2 or the factory 4 bolt blocks become a limitation because there are too many variables., i.e., is the crank driving a supercharger, power adder such as a turbo, being punished by nitrous, and what rpm levels will the engine be seeing.

I had no hesitation making over 500 with the P1SC with the factory 2 bolt main block. I have yet to pull the engine down to check the bearings though. For this build however, I plan on making at least 800 out of the back of the engine to get the car consistently in the 9's. When compared to the cost of the crank, rod, and pistons, the splayed main caps is a relatively inexpensive upgrade.

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Old Feb 14, 2016 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BOLO
It's nice to know you're rebuilding the LT1. I was in the same situation a few years back, when a pushrod gave out during dyno session. It came to a debate on either building a stroker 383, a 396 LT1, or go to the dark side,....long story short, I'm just about done with my 416 LS3 build! Anyhow, good luck with your new build.
Thanks and if I wasn't putting an LS3 in my '77 Trans Am I would probably be going to the dark side on the Formula. Good luck with the 416, keep us updated!
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Glad to see it back out, and progress being made. Sharp/clean car!
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Originally Posted by Jon@BruteSpeed
I have seen many 2 bolt blocks produce more than 500 rwhp without any problems. You will not find a consistent answer when the 2 or the factory 4 bolt blocks become a limitation because there are too many variables., i.e., is the crank driving a supercharger, power adder such as a turbo, being punished by nitrous, and what rpm levels will the engine be seeing.

I had no hesitation making over 500 with the P1SC with the factory 2 bolt main block. I have yet to pull the engine down to check the bearings though. For this build however, I plan on making at least 800 out of the back of the engine to get the car consistently in the 9's. When compared to the cost of the crank, rod, and pistons, the splayed main caps is a relatively inexpensive upgrade.

Jon
I was always under the impression that RPMs are a lot harder on the crank and bearings than boost. Unless you detonate (with boost). My question was aimed more at the RPMs, but I suspect the answer there is as subjective as the RPM limit of the stock valvetrain.
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Subscribed!
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Old Feb 14, 2016 | 10:35 PM
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Jon, glad to see you back! I've always liked your car
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