heads and cam lt1, 420rwhp??
01-25-2005, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by groundpoundinlt1
heads flowing 278 @ .600...the heads i have flow better than the le3 heads lloyd offers!!!!.
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01-25-2005, 01:50 AM
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what kind of flow bench did you use? these are nu-tech performance heads that were fully ported and then hand ported some more...most of the le3's ive seen are anywhere from 273-278
01-25-2005, 03:28 AM
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The numbers are from Lloyd, however he flows them. He's been giving out flow numbers long enough that people should have an idea how his bench flows compared with others.
Anyway, not only has he gotten much better over the years, but the LE3's now have 2.05/1.60 valves. There aren't many of those out there yet, my set is one of the first. Not on the car yet though, unfortunately. They just showed up on my doorstep three days ago.
Anyway, not only has he gotten much better over the years, but the LE3's now have 2.05/1.60 valves. There aren't many of those out there yet, my set is one of the first. Not on the car yet though, unfortunately. They just showed up on my doorstep three days ago.
01-25-2005, 10:32 AM
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I used to have a 93 6spd,4.10gears,stock bottom end,stock ported heads and intake,pulley,hooker long tubes,58mm throttle body,cam motion 234/241@.600 lift hyd. roller,etc. made 438hp FMS tuning
01-27-2005, 01:21 PM
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My LE3's flow better than that. In fact, they flow better than that @ .550
Not saying that Lloyd would pump up numbers but EVERY single set of heads I've ever seen that have been flowed locally with me standing there don't flow what the porter said they flowed..... ARE was notorious for that. Sending out flowsheets that didn't match the heads....
If you have a set of LT1 castings that are flowing 278+ at .550 you've got a nasty set of heads..... Cause not saying it ain't possible cause it is but not by many porters that work with LT1 castings..... getting that kind of flow out of a 190cc port is not easy....
**** my heads flowed 258 @.550 with good midrange numbers and my car flat out FLEW with a hyd roller...
01-27-2005, 02:09 PM
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The flow sheet came with the heads, I wasn't there. Every bench is different so it wouldn't surprise me to see them flow less on some benches, more on others (they'd do in the 215-220 range for exhaust on TEA's bench). But I have no reason to question Lloyd's integrity. Like I said, Lloyd's flow numbers should be a known quantity by now, this wasn't some local porter nobody has heard of before. These numbers are as accurate or inaccurate as his numbers have always been. They're just higher because the heads are better.
Here's the complete sheet:
BTW, the intake ports are no longer 190cc. 
They're 208. 
Anyway, back to the subject of the thread. For the price, I don't think you can get a better set of LT1 heads. I can't wait to see what kind of power they'll make.
But do I expect 420 RWHP? No. I won't be struck dumb with disbelief if they do it, but I don't expect it. That's a tall order for any set of LT1 castings. Especially the way I'll dyno--SAE corrected, no cutout, no electric WP, thick as molasses oil, etc....
Here's the complete sheet:
Code:
Lift Int. Ex. 0.050 37.6 26.1 0.100 64.9 51.9 0.150 98.4 78.1 0.200 134.9 105.2 0.250 165.0 123.4 0.300 197.8 140.5 0.350 219.8 153.3 0.400 240.3 163.1 0.450 260.3 173.5 0.500 274.5 179.7 0.550 279.2 183.8 0.600 282.9 187.9 0.650 284.7 190.0 0.700 285.7 190.8
They're 208. Anyway, back to the subject of the thread. For the price, I don't think you can get a better set of LT1 heads. I can't wait to see what kind of power they'll make.
But do I expect 420 RWHP? No. I won't be struck dumb with disbelief if they do it, but I don't expect it. That's a tall order for any set of LT1 castings. Especially the way I'll dyno--SAE corrected, no cutout, no electric WP, thick as molasses oil, etc....
01-27-2005, 04:38 PM
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I'm going to have Lloyd do a LE3 job on some LT4's with a cam package. I'm def. looking for around the 400 wheel mark with stock forged displacement.
Well have to see though.
Well have to see though.
01-27-2005, 04:45 PM
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I did a cam head lt1 made 421 rwhp (a3 -no lockup tricks apply) and not to freak anyone out his heads only flowed 248 cfm peak......so with those numbers being thrown around you better see alot more than 420 rwhp.. just for performance purposes since dynos not the tell all, the car ran 11.05@120 in a near full weight 96 TA
just for performance purposes since dynos not the tell all, the car ran 11.05@120 in a near full weight 96 TA Last edited by Joe Overton; 01-27-2005 at 04:51 PM.
01-27-2005, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Overton
I did a cam head lt1 made 421 rwhp (a3 -no lockup tricks apply) and not to freak anyone out his heads only flowed 248 cfm peak......so with those numbers being thrown around you better see alot more than 420 rwhp.. just for performance purposes since dynos not the tell all, the car ran 11.05@120 in a near full weight 96 TA
just for performance purposes since dynos not the tell all, the car ran 11.05@120 in a near full weight 96 TA Nice!!
01-27-2005, 07:52 PM
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We'll just have to see how it does, I'm not going to go predicting huge numbers.... You'll also have to keep in mind my cam is a daily-drivable (smoothely pulls 6th @ 60 MPH, makes max power by 5900 RPM with stock heads) hydraulic.
01-29-2005, 11:45 AM
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2.05 valved heads These 2.05 valved heads should be worth 5-10 HP over the 2.00 valved heads and plenty of people had made good power with them. The #'s are better at every lift point and the port NEVER went turbulent and never even leveled off as far as flow goes.
This should work real well on a 350 up to 6600 RPM and the price is right on a set of heads like this.
As far as flow #'s, the last set of LT1 heads with 2.05 valves that I did for Ben Bryant flowed 278 on my bench and supposedly went 285 at TEA on their bench. The set I did for Jon A ended up flowing 4-5 cfm better than those heads. This might only be 270 cfm on some peoples bench but regardless, they are better than the 2.00 valved heads that I offer.
Hopefully we wills ee HP #'s in the 420 RWHP range from this set up wich is pretty awesom for a cam that small that makes that much mid range TQ.
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This should work real well on a 350 up to 6600 RPM and the price is right on a set of heads like this.
As far as flow #'s, the last set of LT1 heads with 2.05 valves that I did for Ben Bryant flowed 278 on my bench and supposedly went 285 at TEA on their bench. The set I did for Jon A ended up flowing 4-5 cfm better than those heads. This might only be 270 cfm on some peoples bench but regardless, they are better than the 2.00 valved heads that I offer.
Hopefully we wills ee HP #'s in the 420 RWHP range from this set up wich is pretty awesom for a cam that small that makes that much mid range TQ.
Lloyd Elliott
Eportworks.com
05-13-2007, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jon A
My LE3's flow better than that. In fact, they flow better than that @ .550.
05-14-2007, 04:06 AM
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Lloyd Elliot is an artist when it comes to porting heads. I just received my LE3 kit along with the ported intake and let me tell you. I almost personally think..... well.... I almost think he ports them too much. This man knew exactlly where to dig. My heads feel like paper but yet you can tell that they are going to be very powerful. I just picked up my heads Saterday and damn..... he ported the **** of them. If he put all of my Shavings in a Zip lock bag.... he'd have to fill up at least a Freezer size. When I first met Lloyd, i walked in on him porting some heads and he was covered in aluminum. The guys wired, my kinda guy. I would highly recommend LE to anyone and I havent even had my car on the Dyno yet. Even if i dont get the #'s I was going for, the guy is still going to have me over the 400whp+ mark. Good job Lloyd on porting my heads, and intake. I'll make you proud after you've seen my dyno #'s. Dont forget to send my other package. (Wink, wink.) Call me and let me know when you have had it sent.
Jeremy Brown.
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10-07-2007, 02:30 PM
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