Ok, I'm big into having an overall plan for my car so it feels like I'm working towards something. Anyway, I'm setting my goals towards a very streetable, very reliable, 450HP LT1. Once I get out of College I will probably buy a car to turn into a monster and keep the 93Z as a cruiser, so I want a setup that will last. And I want my first car to have the original engine, I will worry about having a 700HP+ Car later on, but it definitly won't be my first Camaro.

Here is my mod plan, ruffly.

-Hooker Catback Exhaust System
-Pacesetter Long Tube Headers (Ceramic Coated) and Off Road Y-Pipe (Might go with Hooker if I run into some money/get a deal)
-Complete LT4 Conversion Kit, Heads, Hotcam, Intake, Rockers.
-Holley 52MM Throttle Body
-Fuddle Racing 3000 RPM Torque Converter (Stall)
-3.43 or 3.73 gears
-Shift Kit
-LT4 Knock Module
-EiBach Pro-Kit Springs
-BMR Tubular Subframe Connectors
-BMR Strut Tower Brace
-Racing Seats and 4 Point Harness'
-Computer Tuning
-Upgraded Brakes

What do you guys think I will need with the fuel system, rear end, and internals to be able to maintain that much Horse Power on a car that will have 100,000 miles on it? I may have the engine re-built at 125k or something. But I'm not too good with knowing what I need to support horse power but I think that's the plan I'm gonna stick to. Looking for 450HP and mid-high 12's. Keep in mind, that this is a plan over a 2 year spand, until I'm out of College. Then I want to build a 600+ HP Street/Strip beast. Suggestions on an order to follow wouldn't hurt either.

Don't worry about pissing me off, just tell me what you think

 

You aren't going to make 450hp with the LT4 kit. If I were you I would look into some other options like LE or AI kits.

 

If your wanting mid-high 12s there is no need to go heads cam. Do headers, exhaust, intake, gears, stall and drag radials and you will be there. Throw rockers on for insurance.

 

Agreed. It isn't that difficult to get into the high 12's. Bolt on's as listed above and a decent pcm tune should do it. 450hp is a lot of power. The internet makes it seem like it is easy to make 450hp and daily drive your car etc... Reality is that 450hp while streetable is a lot of power and not easily or inexpensively attained. Especially if we are talking rwhp numbers.

 

for your knowledge on the 4-point harness' the shoulder straps should be monted to a bar that is equivalent or close in height to the hlose in the seat if you put them directly to the floor like the lap belts then on a head on collision when your body goes forward your spine lines up and can cause sever back injury.........from what i have heard most people start on their cars with intake and exhaust followed by map/maf censors (yes, i know they are essentially part of the intake) then head work and so on however if you do go this route get an intake and exhaust that will flow per the items that you will be installing in the future not the ones on it now this may seem pointless now but when everything is together youll be glad you did also trying to make that horsepower is easier without emissions control stuff especially cats keep in mind also that by doing most of the work yourself you will save a dramatic amount of money that will be needed for gas with a 450hp setup
i could be completely wrong but this is just my .02

 

Thanks for the advice guys... how much power would I be expecting with the LT4 conversion? And would a 5 point harness be better if I was to get in a crash? I would rather not mess around with a cage or anyhing like that.

 

You would be lucky with an auto to get 320-330 RWHP with the LT4 conversion kit thru an auto IMHO. The problem is that shitty HotCam. Its pitifully small IMHO.

 

a 5 point really wouldnt help because the fifth point is to keep your wast from sliding forward in the seat people generally just do one bar at shoulder height behind the seats and most of the time you can still use the back seat but you have to crawl under the bar to get there the advantage is that now your passengers have an "OH Sh#t" bar for high speeds

 

Rather than dump all that money into the LT4 conversion, check out a head/cam package from either Lloyd Elliott or Joe O and Eric B. Much better power for a lot less money. Keep researching this forum and Camaroz28.com before you decide on your setup, you've got a lot to learn . Start off with the bolt-ons and work your way up. Ask any questions you need and we'll do our best to help ya out.

 

Thanks for the advice Vendetta, the more I ask the more I learn :-). First I need to decide on my exhaust, I know I'm getting hooker catback but I also want Headers, and a y-pipe obviously. But after my exhaust I will only have about 300 bucks to spend on that so it's not looking too hopeful. Plus I need to install my power window motor, fix my blinker, and get my stereo working right.

 

The packages you were talking about look really good. The $1100 package sounds great, espically for the price. My mod sheet would look somewhat like this, besides what I already have.

-Hooker Catback Exhaust
-Pacesetter LT's and ORY
-Elliot + Joe Overton Heads/Cam Package
-3.73's or 3.43's
-Holley 52mm Throttle Body
-Intake Manifolds?
-2800-3200 RPM Stall? -Fuddle Racing
-PCM For Less Tuning
-EiBach Pro-Kit Springs
-BMR Strut Tower Brace
-BMR Tubular Sub-Frame Connectors
-Racing Seats
-4 Point Harness' with that bar thing?

That is kinda a ruff plan, but I'm gonna take it slow and see how things work out. It would be nice to have a 400HP car by the time I go off to College, but that depends on how much money I will make, I might have a job that pays 2,500 a month, which is very good for me... but we will see if I get it. Then I might step the package up one more and get a nice little daily driver. I'm not going to go too extreme on my first car so I want a setup that will last Me, once I gain some more knowledge and get out of college we will see about building a Pro-Street car. By the way, I think I'm gonna take my car to the strip in two weeks and see what I run before my exhaust and headers. Plus the GTP I've been talking about might come down there to run Me.

 

just do longtubes then duals with dumps as exhaust. saves money and sounds the best. i wouldn't get any harness or anything at all, and would go with some sort of head/cam package thourgh Joe O or someone like that.

 

Yeah the only reason I want racing seats is because of the tear in my drivers seat, and now the cigarette hole as well ... women these days. I guess I could just get some seat covers, but racing seats will cut down weight a little bit too, and if I get some why not have a harness. I like my stock seats so for now I will probably just throw a cover on them.