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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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Alright, my birthday is coming up and I'm curious if I should get something for my car. Currently, I have a 94 A4 Z28 with an LT4 KM, LT headers, matching Y-pipe into a slowmaster, descreened MAF, (which was not necessary) and a Moroso CAI. I also got a high volume oil pump, when I was getting my car fixed from the timing chain deal...I don't know what to do next. Is there any other bolt on I can buy that will make a difference in quarter mile time? (I don't want to hear anything about a stall converter. I know that would be great, but to expensive. Lets try to keep it reasonable )
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 01:29 AM
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Get some money and save up for a torque converter. Seriously. I know you don't want to hear it, but there is no better mod for a bolt-on A4 car.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 01:37 AM
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It's cheaper than full exhuast.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 05:04 AM
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March pulleys (Power and Amp series), Maf ends, ADJ. fuel pressure regulator, Valve cover breather (helps with intake leaks).
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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Cutout before the flowmaster, and a Good torque converter. Those 2 mods should make a big difference.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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Get some suspension parts. You can make all the power in the world, but if you don't get it to the ground it aint worth a ****.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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Another vote for a stall converter.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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Get some suspension parts. You can make all the power in the world, but if you don't get it to the ground it aint worth a ****.
I have seen plenty of cars with nothing more than a set of Relocation brackets, and a set of DR's as only suspension mods pull 1.5-1.6 60ft's with a good converter. Don't get me wrong, they have there place...But I would say a good converter/LT's/CAI would be first on my list of mods for an A4 car. He already has the other 2 things, so i would definately get the converter.
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I'm just worried about putting more wear on my tranny. Doesn't a converter put a lot of stress on your transmission? I'm looking for some mods that will get me more hp. A converter won't do that, but will launch the sh*t out of my car. I want to see a difference on the dyno. What do you guys think I would run in the quarter right now and what do you think I would run with a converter. Just out of curiousity.

Also, how do I go about the relocation brackets? How much money is it, how do I do it. Obviously I think I should take it somewhere. I haven't heard of this. Man, I'm a noob...

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Originally Posted by Camaro 0wner
I'm just worried about putting more wear on my tranny. Doesn't a converter put a lot of stress on your transmission? I'm looking for some mods that will get me more hp. A converter won't do that, but will launch the sh*t out of my car. I want to see a difference on the dyno. What do you guys think I would run in the quarter right now and what do you think I would run with a converter. Just out of curiousity.

Also, how do I go about the relocation brackets? How much money is it, how do I do it. Obviously I think I should take it somewhere. I haven't heard of this. Man, I'm a noob...
Would you rather have your car faster or just Bragging rights of more HP. Torque converters are by far the biggest bang for your buck mod for an A4. Period. If your tranny is gonna wear out or break, it will do it with the stock converter too. ET wise a properly setup converter for your car should drop .5 or more off your times. More gains have been seen regularly as well. Just make sure that you get a tranny cooler as well, because hi-stall torque converters generate more heat. This is what is hard on a transmission. Relocation brackets are like $100, u can get weld in or bolt in. They Reposition your instant center by altering your control arm angle for increased traction. These are also a must for cars that have been lowered as well. They do help, but not nearly as much as other things.
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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back when i had my A4 tranny with 3.73s i was running 13.9s with a 60ft of 2.0 if i had had a better stall(had stock) it would have made a hell of a difference in my timeslips my friends gt convertible M5 would get me off the line but i was passing him in between the 60 ft and 1/8th mile and just kept on running away from him (anyway how much are looking to spend torque convertors arent that expensive if you do it yourself just pay for the part i just started doing that stuff and it wasnt as hard as i thought it was) doing a t56 swap right now
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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When you were running a 13.9, what mods did you have? Also, how much is it to get a torque converter. (installed)

To answer "bigkap94z" I kind of want the HP. I don't go to the track all the time, so time slips really don't matter that much. Only once and a while when I go. I like to have the HP and notice the gains with everyday driving.
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Originally Posted by Camaro 0wner
When you were running a 13.9, what mods did you have? Also, how much is it to get a torque converter. (installed)

To answer "bigkap94z" I kind of want the HP. I don't go to the track all the time, so time slips really don't matter that much. Only once and a while when I go. I like to have the HP and notice the gains with everyday driving.
Torque converters don't just make you faster at the strip, they make your faster everywhere. You will notice the gains the first time you line up next to a car at the light. For the cost of install I couldn't tell you, I do all that on my own. Its very easy to do with basic hand tools.
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Stall converter > *
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BigKap94z
I have seen plenty of cars with nothing more than a set of Relocation brackets, and a set of DR's as only suspension mods pull 1.5-1.6 60ft's with a good converter. Don't get me wrong, they have there place...But I would say a good converter/LT's/CAI would be first on my list of mods for an A4 car. He already has the other 2 things, so i would definately get the converter.
That is hard to believe on a bolt on, full weight car with just relocation brackets cut 1.5 60's. I cut on average 1.70, with a best of 1.68 and I have a properly set up suspension with BMR ADJ ta, LCA's Adj phr, a Edge 3400 converter, and et streets. I know that a converter is the best bang for your buck, I gained .3 when I was just bolt ons, but he said he didn't want a converter. Just my .02
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Originally Posted by matt94z
That is hard to believe on a bolt on, full weight car with just relocation brackets cut 1.5 60's. I cut on average 1.70, with a best of 1.68 and I have a properly set up suspension with BMR ADJ ta, LCA's Adj phr, a Edge 3400 converter, and et streets. I know that a converter is the best bang for your buck, I gained .3 when I was just bolt ons, but he said he didn't want a converter. Just my .02
I don't remember him saying he didn't want one, just that he was worried it was going to damage his transmission. I didn't say bolt on only cars, but there have been plenty in that range. Your car may have issues 60ft'ing that low due to the higher 1st gear in the TH350. I have a couple friends with 60ft'd in the low 1.6's with a stall/bolt ons/MT DR's..with virtually no suspension mods. I understand that the cost may be high from the first look, but he asked for something that would really make a difference. A good torque converter is worth far more than a bunch of little stuff that probably won't make a whole bunch of difference. I guess if he doesn't want the best he can do, then he can replace the flowmaster or put a cutout in...that should pick up some power since flowmasters are known for lowering your HP even on Bone stock cars.
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Originally Posted by BigKap94z
I don't remember him saying he didn't want one, just that he was worried it was going to damage his transmission. I didn't say bolt on only cars, but there have been plenty in that range. Your car may have issues 60ft'ing that low due to the higher 1st gear in the TH350. I have a couple friends with 60ft'd in the low 1.6's with a stall/bolt ons/MT DR's..with virtually no suspension mods. I understand that the cost may be high from the first look, but he asked for something that would really make a difference. A good torque converter is worth far more than a bunch of little stuff that probably won't make a whole bunch of difference. I guess if he doesn't want the best he can do, then he can replace the flowmaster or put a cutout in...that should pick up some power since flowmasters are known for lowering your HP even on Bone stock cars.
Flowmasters were only proven to loose hp on applications where cam and heads were used and like 5 hp at the most. A stockish car will not loose any hp from a flowmaster exhaust. I dont think the cutout would help much in hp at all. Anywayz if you can, get a converter definetly, thats next on my list as well.
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i been 1.63 on stock suspension with a 2800 stall and 3.73's and DR's
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Old Dec 2, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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if you are a serious racer these are some good steps converter3500,cut out 150 shot of the gas, then a good tune then you will be flying right after the converter do gears 3.73's
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Originally Posted by Camaro 0wner
(I don't want to hear anything about a stall converter. I know that would be great, but to expensive. Lets try to keep it reasonable )
Thats what I was talking about. I too think it would be the best mod for him, the only mod that I have done that gained more was both of my cam swaps.
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