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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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Regardless of future modifications you will get more with longtubes, although shorties might be an alternative at your current state of mods. For what it is worth, shorties are not cheap and you can get a pair of longtubes for the same price, might as well get longtubes.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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Shortys blow, get long tubes, end of story. Unless u have a lowerd car, Lt will perform the best.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by firebird_fury
Regardless of future modifications you will get more with longtubes, although shorties might be an alternative at your current state of mods. For what it is worth, shorties are not cheap and you can get a pair of longtubes for the same price, might as well get longtubes.
but he already has a set of shorties on the car. wouldnt it be a waste of money to go out and buy longtubes since he has shorties/mids already?
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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two people already proved that with his mods going from shortys to long tubes are not going to gain anything.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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Shorties here 1/5/8 with a 2/1/2 collector welded up to CATS shoved right up into the engine bay (as per emissions spec. on the GTO). I also run a 2/1/4 catback and 3200 stall.

12.2@112 all stock motor and 11.9@114 212-220 cam only.

Dynos mean ****. Ive always dynoed low compared to most ppl. out there. Settle the war where its fought - at the track.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 03:59 PM
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I <3 Longtubes
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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I'm going from Shorty's to Longtubes. I'll post results when I get them in (one day) and get to the track. From BBK + BBK Y to Pacesetters + ORY.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 04:55 AM
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Id go with the long tubes and true duals. When I had my 1997 Trans Am I had Hooker long tubes with 2.5" true duals, CAI, 3.73, pulleys, reprogrammer, adj. fuel pressure regulator, pretty much bolt on's. It had a great mph (110mph) I dont remember the time, I was surprised to see that mph for the mods I had.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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I voted for the longtubes, but I had great results with the Edelbrocks a few years back. Ran 12.34 with a best mph of 109.9 (bolt on's), and 11.27/119 with a 100 shot.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Longtubes are probably best for anything
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by blkchevyz
well i proved that you dont gain anything on bolt ons and a cam car going to long tubes from shorties.
and i had shorty 1 5/8s headers

i love how all these people say shorties are worthless and they have never ran them.
I agree. I have Shorties and true duals without clearanse problems.... I think i can have the extra 10hps with other mod and dont be hitting the paviment all the time...
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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My JetHot Longtubes should be removed in a week or so (can find out from Gforce when exactly) and I'm going to Kooks LTs and will sell these cheap if your interested. I paid $520, they are about 2 yrs old, in good shape send me a pm if your interested. Only reason I'm upgrading is I'm stroking, they were good headers.

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Which one will be better for my mods with stock head
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Long -tubes all the way!!
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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How much of a horsepower gain would I see with the addition of Edelbrock shorties to a completely stock exhaust?
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hz28
I agree. I have Shorties and true duals without clearanse problems.... I think i can have the extra 10hps with other mod and dont be hitting the paviment all the time...
I have LT's and I never hit the pavement except on really big speed bumps. It's not even the LT's that hits it, it's the cutout.
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Old Feb 3, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Shackleford
How much of a horsepower gain would I see with the addition of Edelbrock shorties to a completely stock exhaust?
on mine, i droped .4 and gained 3mph
so thats probably around 25-30
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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individual hand made stainless long tubes with the some $700 collectors that dump before the rear wheels are the only way to go
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Eric
What that guy said. I always assume that since this is a performance board its about how to make the most power, not how to get around laws. I assume thats what the original poster wanted. I dont recall the original poster saying anything about having a lowered car or emissions so I dont know why people brought that up.
Maybe that is for a different viewpoint ???
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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pacesetter LTs on my LT1, there freaking amazing. $410 shipped. www.byunspeed.com
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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i just ran 12.1s @ 115+ with slp shorties/mid lengths. that was full bolt ons, home ported heads and an fms cam.

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