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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 04:56 AM
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Exclamation Short or mid or long tube headers?

Which one will be better for my mods with stock head
my mods will be
cam 305 or 503 (not yet decided)
converter 3000 TCI
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y -pipe 2.5''
Flowtech muffler ( cat-back)
BBK 52
ram air
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:44 AM
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Def LT's with a matching y-pipe. They yield the best gains over any other length headers especially since u got a cam go with LT's.
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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You can't go wrong with longtubes!!!!
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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The easiest way to find the answer to this question is to ask a girl. Everybody likes them long. If you have future high performance plans for your car the long tubes will definitely be the way to go. Kooks stainless on my bird and I love them
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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i had pretty much the same mods, hot cam, all the bolt ons. i went from shorty edelbrock 1 5/8 headers to flp long tubes and gained nothing. dynoed the exact same.

im happy i did it now since im making alot more power but wasnt worth it then.
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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Long tubes if you will ever consider more upgrades. I have a very similar set up to you and I had Hooker long tubes with true duel exhaust on the car. I swapped them out for AS&M mid length headers and the Random Tech 2 cat y-pipe, and now the car makes more power. Go figure! I guess for my mods, the mid length are perfect and tung tubes were over kill.
I have ported heads, Hot cam, Borla. A4 Car puts out 385rwhp/363rwtq
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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In my opinon, Long Tubes are the only way to go. If your looking for the best of the best, and are willing to pay look at Kooks and QTP. If your look for good headers, at an affordable price, most go with Hooker, Jet-Hot, or Pacesetter. With Pacesetter being the cheapest, you can get coated Pacesetters for under $400 most of the time. If your going with long tubes, it's also best to spend the extra money on Ceramic Coating, instead of the plain finish.
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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Long tubes woke my LT1 up!!
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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i had full suspention borla and my as&m headers thats it and i was walking on 04 lightings...mids are great for lowered cars due to clearence issues, but if your looking for all out power get long tubes
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Docspeed
You can't go wrong with longtubes!!!!
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shorty/mids are worthless, dont believe the hype about primary size or whatever. I've owned both and sound and performance wise for my application long tubes were far better. The gains from mids to long tubes was dyno proven on my car.

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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Eric
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shorty/mids are worthless, dont believe the hype about primary size or whatever. I've owned bother and sound and performance wise for my applicatuion long tubes were far better.
thats weird cause its been proved that the as&m mids gain the same power as LTs
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Docspeed
You can't go wrong with longtubes!!!!
You can go wrong if your car is lowered too much as said. Crushed longtubes won't do you any good. You can be as careful as possible but you'll eventually either forget or be in a spot where you're stuck going over a speed bump or parking lot entrance that's too high and hit them.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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Longtubes or shorties as long as there 1 3/4 your not going to see a diffrence in power
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Right, shortys are better on a non lowered car. thats why the poll says 90% long tubes. Acar being lowered is the only reason it should have anything besides long tubes, so when you lower your car keep in mind youll be giving up hp. Ive been on several automotive forums for over 6 years and of all the horse's n00bs like to beat this is probably the oldest one.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by skatinjay27
thats weird cause its been proved that the as&m mids gain the same power as LTs
Maybe on a stock vehicle. Show me a real life LE2 or 3 setup with shortys and LT's and prove they make the same ammount of power all the way across the board.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Eric
Right, shortys are better on a non lowered car. thats why the poll says 90% long tubes. Acar being lowered is the only reason it should have anything besides long tubes,
or maybe some ppl need to pass emissions and cannot move the location of the cat.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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not a large enough difference for this debate IMO go with what suits you best, considering emmissions, or if you car is lowered.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 97LT1
not a large enough difference for this debate IMO go with what suits you best, considering emmissions, or if you car is lowered.
What that guy said. I always assume that since this is a performance board its about how to make the most power, not how to get around laws. I assume thats what the original poster wanted. I dont recall the original poster saying anything about having a lowered car or emissions so I dont know why people brought that up.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Eric
I dont recall the original poster saying anything about having a lowered car or emissions so I dont know why people brought that up.
They're all completely legitimate things to think about.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Compstall
They're all completely legitimate things to think about.
Legit? yes. Was it mentioned? no. Shortys suck.
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