LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

LT1 computer tuning

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:04 PM
  #1  
nnolan's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Default LT1 computer tuning

I know some of you guys out there are using tunercats. I just got mine and I was wondering if you guys could help me learn some of the parameters that I would want to adjust. I would think spark and fuel woud be the main ones. I am new to tuning PCM's but I am really interested in it, as for my own hobby or maybe even a job someday. But my engine repair teacher at my college doesnt know much about it. Any help would be appreciated as I am kinda feeling my way around and learning on my own. Thanks.
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:08 PM
  #2  
blkchevyz's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,101
Likes: 0
Default

http://members.nuvox.net/~on.roz/cars/z28/tuning.html

http://para.noid.org/~lj/PCM%20Tutorial/PCMtutorial.htm

couple things to start reading.
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:12 PM
  #3  
harvickgm's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 755
Likes: 0
From: Fernandina Beach, Florida
Default

before you just start changing numbers.. the best thing in order to do it is, to get a wide band O2 so that you can get the AFR as close to 13 as possible. if its is a NA motor.. you can do it blindly and the experts can do it all day, but for you. that would be the first thing to get so that you can monitor it as well... and do you have a datalogging software... if not get one... TTS datamaster is what i use and you are going to need it to tune as well...
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:22 PM
  #4  
infinitebird's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,280
Likes: 51
From: Denver, CO
Default

I agree get a few datalogs before you start changing things related to fuel and spark, like you don't want to increase timing if you're already getting knock retard.

You can change most of the stuff in the constants table fairly easily if needed. A good first thing I usually do is change the fan settings so the engine runs cooler.
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:52 PM
  #5  
lafnlt1's Avatar
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 339
Likes: 0
From: Chi-Town
Default

it's called a dyno w/wideband and LT1 edit, it's the real only safe way to make the most power.
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:19 AM
  #6  
nnolan's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Default

I have an OBD II, I think datamaster only makes them for OBD I. I was looking at an autotap data logger, and where can I find a good cheap wideband o2?
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:29 AM
  #7  
blkchevyz's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,101
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by lafnlt1
it's called a dyno w/wideband and LT1 edit, it's the real only safe way to make the most power.
actually the cars i tune show a totally different air fuel ratio on the dyno then they do on the street/track

i prefer the hand held widebands.


but testing on the street isnt the safest.

Last edited by blkchevyz; Feb 17, 2006 at 11:43 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 11:32 AM
  #8  
Camaroholic's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 6,449
Likes: 1
From: Waco, TX
Default

I use AutoTap when tweaking on OBDII LT1's. It does a reasonable job. I like Datamaster so much better, but they don't offer an OBDII version.

As for widebands, several of our sponsors carry the Innovate Motorsports systems. Check out http://www.innovatemotorsports.com - and look through the Sponsors Sales & GP section here, there always seems to be a GP going on. I run the LM1 wideband with the RPM module on my 98Z.
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 01:11 PM
  #9  
nnolan's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Default

Can the GM tech 2 be used as a wideband o2? Cause if so I have access to one of those. O and thanks for the great answers so far guys, you are helping alot.
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 01:54 PM
  #10  
blkchevyz's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,101
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by nnolan
Can the GM tech 2 be used as a wideband o2? Cause if so I have access to one of those. O and thanks for the great answers so far guys, you are helping alot.
never used one, but i dont think it can. a wide band o2 will have to be put into the exhaust stream
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 02:09 PM
  #11  
harvickgm's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 755
Likes: 0
From: Fernandina Beach, Florida
Default

no,the tech 2 will not work, wide band has to have a completly different O2 in the exhaust to work.. but i hear the new GM cars are coming from the factory with wideband system... not sure when though... you can find some on ebay...
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 04:17 PM
  #12  
nnolan's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Default

some what, wideband o2s?
Reply
Old Feb 17, 2006 | 04:41 PM
  #13  
harvickgm's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 755
Likes: 0
From: Fernandina Beach, Florida
Default

yea, sorry... you can do a wideband O2 search on ebay and usually there are some for sale for pretty decent prices.. around 350-400
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 02:14 AM
  #14  
HeBen's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Default careful with the fan settings

Originally Posted by infinitebird
A good first thing I usually do is change the fan settings so the engine runs cooler.
Careful with this. It must not exceed your thermostat rating or else your fan could run constantly and burn out quickly.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 12:20 PM
  #15  
nnolan's Avatar
Thread Starter
Teching In
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
Default

good point
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 07:52 PM
  #16  
infinitebird's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,280
Likes: 51
From: Denver, CO
Default

Originally Posted by HeBen
Careful with this. It must not exceed your thermostat rating or else your fan could run constantly and burn out quickly.
Well yeah if you set it ridiculously low. I'm just talking about changing it to something more reasonable. The stock setting is more than 45 deg past where the stock stat opens. That's way too high IMO.
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:41 PM
  #17  
HeBen's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by infinitebird
Well yeah if you set it ridiculously low. I'm just talking about changing it to something more reasonable. The stock setting is more than 45 deg past where the stock stat opens. That's way too high IMO.
Agreed.

I saw some handheld tuners at the autoparts store for like about 300-500 bucks or something and thought that there must be a cheaper easier way using my laptop. Does anyone know the cheapest way to get into tuning my 95 formula? I think it's an obdII.
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:44 PM
  #18  
infinitebird's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,280
Likes: 51
From: Denver, CO
Default

Originally Posted by HeBen
Agreed.

I saw some handheld tuners at the autoparts store for like about 300-500 bucks or something and thought that there must be a cheaper easier way using my laptop. Does anyone know the cheapest way to get into tuning my 95 formula? I think it's an obdII.
www.tunercat.com

costs around $200 for the software and a cable (if you want serial, buy it from akmcables.com, if you want usb, get the one from moates.net).

This also allows you to do a real tune, unlike with a handheld.
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:43 PM
  #19  
HeBen's Avatar
Staging Lane
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by infinitebird
www.tunercat.com

costs around $200 for the software and a cable (if you want serial, buy it from akmcables.com, if you want usb, get the one from moates.net).

This also allows you to do a real tune, unlike with a handheld.
Yeah. That's what I'm looking for. Thanks man. I'm checking out the site right now. It looks like I might not know as much as I thought I did about reprogramming my car. There's alot of abbreviations that I'm not familiar with. I'll keep looking till I figure it out. Any other site you know of to help me to really know what I'm doing? Also, I'm not sure but as near as I can tell the software seems to cost about $380 and I'm guessing the cable would be extra. it says this:

Software Available Price
OBDII Tuner Package (an OBDII Definition File is also required - see below) $300.00
OBDII Definition Files (each)
$79.95

on this page
http://www.tunercat.com/tnr_desc/do_tc.html

is that right? thanks again man.
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:51 PM
  #20  
infinitebird's Avatar
TECH Veteran
20 Year Member
Liked
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,280
Likes: 51
From: Denver, CO
Default

You don't want the OBDII stuff. You have a 95 which is OBDI. You just need the OBDI Tuner program and EE def file.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:23 AM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE