Finally!!!! I got my cam specs and heads flow #'s for my new 383!!!
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Finally!!!! I got my cam specs and heads flow #'s for my new 383!!!
My first 383 cam was the 503 from comp: 224-230 112 LSA with AFR 195 LT4 "race ready" heads. Flow 260 cfm @28 inches of water. This combo made 370 rear wheel with A4. I'm still using the A4.
My builder called me and said my 383 will be done next week!
The new cam specs is as follows:
Custom Grind Comp Cams Roller
.637 Intake and .647 exhaust; lift with 1.6 rockers
Duration @.50 266-272; ADV 310-322
106 LSA
Heads: AFR 210 LT4 w/2.08-1.60 valves professionally ported and assembled with K-Motion springs. Flowed 313 cfm @28 inches of water at Westech Performance in Mira Loma, CA
My builder called me and said my 383 will be done next week!
The new cam specs is as follows:
Custom Grind Comp Cams Roller
.637 Intake and .647 exhaust; lift with 1.6 rockers
Duration @.50 266-272; ADV 310-322
106 LSA
Heads: AFR 210 LT4 w/2.08-1.60 valves professionally ported and assembled with K-Motion springs. Flowed 313 cfm @28 inches of water at Westech Performance in Mira Loma, CA
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Originally Posted by lt1taracing
props, you should see a huge improvment. i may be wrong but i believe those are the same heads as overton's running on his car.
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mine runs 11.1s all motor with heads that flow around 260@600. and a 230-236 576-571 comp. hyd. roller. i was refering to joe overton. red 94 t/a he's been in alot of the gm hightech mags. it runs 9.3s all motor in the 1/4. 5.9s in the 8th.
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Originally Posted by lt1taracing
mine runs 11.1s all motor with heads that flow around 260@600. and a 230-236 576-571 comp. hyd. roller. i was refering to joe overton. red 94 t/a he's been in alot of the gm hightech mags. it runs 9.3s all motor in the 1/4. 5.9s in the 8th.
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i think you'd see a big improvement going to a turbo 350 with a good t/q conv. mine was about a half sec. slower in the 8th with the 4l60. i also had a conv. with it aswell.
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you don't know who overton is????
if we're both thinking of joe overton...well, let's just say he's made a few cams that pull pretty hard....
he's one of the best custom cam grinders around these partrs....(not to say brett is awesome himself) but joe does fantastic work.
motor should be REALLY healthy...make sure to get some video with sound of that bad boy when it cranks up
if we're both thinking of joe overton...well, let's just say he's made a few cams that pull pretty hard....
he's one of the best custom cam grinders around these partrs....(not to say brett is awesome himself) but joe does fantastic work.
motor should be REALLY healthy...make sure to get some video with sound of that bad boy when it cranks up
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Originally Posted by Built LT1
My first 383 cam was the 503 from comp: 224-230 112 LSA with AFR 195 LT4 "race ready" heads. Flow 260 cfm @28 inches of water. This combo made 370 rear wheel with A4. I'm still using the A4.
My builder called me and said my 383 will be done next week!
The new cam specs is as follows:
Custom Grind Comp Cams Roller
.637 Intake and .647 exhaust; lift with 1.6 rockers
Duration @.50 266-272; ADV 310-322
106 LSA
Heads: AFR 210 LT4 w/2.08-1.60 valves professionally ported and assembled with K-Motion springs. Flowed 313 cfm @28 inches of water at Westech Performance in Mira Loma, CA
My builder called me and said my 383 will be done next week!
The new cam specs is as follows:
Custom Grind Comp Cams Roller
.637 Intake and .647 exhaust; lift with 1.6 rockers
Duration @.50 266-272; ADV 310-322
106 LSA
Heads: AFR 210 LT4 w/2.08-1.60 valves professionally ported and assembled with K-Motion springs. Flowed 313 cfm @28 inches of water at Westech Performance in Mira Loma, CA
IMO, you have WAY too much cam. I suggest you'll be about 50 lb ft down @ 4000 compared to a cam that peaks the same hp within a few %, has only about 60% of the overlap and gives twice as much idle vacuum as well as more average torque and hp. Great flowing heads, as you seem to have, don't need huge cams.
My $.02
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Originally Posted by Old SStroker
IMO, you have WAY too much cam. I suggest you'll be about 50 lb ft down @ 4000 compared to a cam that peaks the same hp within a few %, has only about 60% of the overlap and gives twice as much idle vacuum as well as more average torque and hp. Great flowing heads, as you seem to have, don't need huge cams.
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Originally Posted by streetrod93
you don't know who overton is????
if we're both thinking of joe overton...well, let's just say he's made a few cams that pull pretty hard....
he's one of the best custom cam grinders around these partrs....(not to say brett is awesome himself) but joe does fantastic work.
motor should be REALLY healthy...make sure to get some video with sound of that bad boy when it cranks up
if we're both thinking of joe overton...well, let's just say he's made a few cams that pull pretty hard....
he's one of the best custom cam grinders around these partrs....(not to say brett is awesome himself) but joe does fantastic work.
motor should be REALLY healthy...make sure to get some video with sound of that bad boy when it cranks up
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Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
I look foward to seeing what you make. I like the setup.
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i think that with that many inches, the cam will "hide" some of it's size. we just finished up my friends 358 that had a cam in it almost identical but with just a little less duration. the car drives fine and pulls like a god.
i replied to this on z28.com too giving my opinion, and i don't think that cam is too big either....just spend some serious time tuning, and you won't have any trouble with it.
as for the daily driver thing, maybe not the ideal setup, but it can be done, gas milage is gonna be really good :-)
trust me, you don't want to under cam those heads, the AFR heads are amazing heads, and you'll see some very impressive number higher in the rpm range with that combination.
IF you had to change it, i would pull the duration down a little, which in turn is going to start making power a little earlier and peak just a little earlier, but i like the lift, it's at a good spot for those heads, trust me, i've got the same heads on a 355 and the lift is just under 635 on both sides.
in other words....shove it in a see if you can't break a tranny or rear end :-)
i replied to this on z28.com too giving my opinion, and i don't think that cam is too big either....just spend some serious time tuning, and you won't have any trouble with it.
as for the daily driver thing, maybe not the ideal setup, but it can be done, gas milage is gonna be really good :-)
trust me, you don't want to under cam those heads, the AFR heads are amazing heads, and you'll see some very impressive number higher in the rpm range with that combination.
IF you had to change it, i would pull the duration down a little, which in turn is going to start making power a little earlier and peak just a little earlier, but i like the lift, it's at a good spot for those heads, trust me, i've got the same heads on a 355 and the lift is just under 635 on both sides.
in other words....shove it in a see if you can't break a tranny or rear end :-)
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Thank you for the compliment. I too look forward to seeing what it makes. I wonder if anyone will post a rear wheel guess based on what they have read on similar set ups.
jeff
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Originally Posted by streetrod93
hit me up with a pm and i can run those specs through the new desktop dyno program and give you a decent estimate of flywheel horsepower...
jeff
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Originally Posted by Built LT1
Too big of a cam?...That's exactly what I thought also! Apparently, the flow numbers along with compression and other vital information was given to the people at COMP CAMS and this is what their model suggested. I fell over when I heard the specs and wondered if this would even run! One more thing to consider however is that it is a SOLID ROLLER; and others have told me that it would act smaller than say a hydraulic at those specs. What do you think?
I did look at it as a solid roller. The predicted idle vacuum was about 5-1/2 in hg. I suspect the port volume in now quite a bit more than "210" to get the 313 cfm and feed a 383.
I still think it's too big, but I am a proponent of "less is more" when it comes to valve timing.
Just for grins, what lobe numbers did Comp suggest for this stick? Also do you have actual flow numbers for all lifts?
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Even for a solid roller, IMO it's huge especially for an A4. 388ci isn't going to make a cam that size seem too much smaller. Maybe a SBC 454, but not 388. And the whole thing on a 106LSA? To me that's an agressive road racing cam for an M6.
Jim
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