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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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My vent lines are like Shepherds.

I would agree with Bretts statement on leaving them be.

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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Update on mine.
Im not running the vent lines due to my engine builder.
Have had Zero problems. Temp has not even risen over 170.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Is that the same as the coolant crossover tube?

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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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^^ yes it's the same thing people like to call them different things. BUt like everyone will agree, they're there for a reason and NO NOT NEED TO BE DELETED!!!
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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Yea why mess with a good thing?
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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Not only that, they are a necessity.
Don't mean to beat the dead Horse..
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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Guys with single plane conversions and gen 1 heads, have you ever considered using the coolant crossover in the intake to do this, use the rears with AN fittings and T them together and run to the radiator? Then maybe use the thermostat blockoff and drill it for a bleeder, as this in the front is the true high point in the system?

Just thinking out loud...this is what I am thinking about doing.


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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by FASTFATBOY
Guys with single plane conversions and gen 1 heads, have you ever considered using the coolant crossover in the intake to do this, use the rears with AN fittings and T them together and run to the radiator? Then maybe use the thermostat blockoff and drill it for a bleeder, as this in the front is the true high point in the system?

Just thinking out loud...this is what I am thinking about doing.


David
Thats a very good idea David! For those with gen 1 heads...........take notes.
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by juicedimpss
so on a retro fit install where the hell do you run the line to?
seems to me(without having a cyl head in front of me) the hole was not at the top of the coolant pocket,technically it will not bleed air.
On a retrofit the line runs back to the radiator right under the coolant overflow hose....

gary

and yes you NEED these lines...(ask me how I know)
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by asudecat
Update on mine.
Im not running the vent lines due to my engine builder.
Have had Zero problems. Temp has not even risen over 170.



your builder is an id$%t.... the temp at the guage has zero to do with how how the cylinder head gets back at the top rear area... you have NO idea how hot your cylinder head is... you are just lucky so far... go ahead and keep beating it...

just MHO
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Yea, it will go boom and smoke without them lines. One of the guys up above us can probably tell you that.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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I dont think the guys at LME are Idiots, you F*ck tard.
They have done many builds like this and have had no problems.
Hell if it goes BOOM then I get a new motor.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 9T4Z


your builder is an id$%t.... the temp at the guage has zero to do with how how the cylinder head gets back at the top rear area... you have NO idea how hot your cylinder head is... you are just lucky so far... go ahead and keep beating it...

just MHO

LME is a very respected builder... Please just get your *** off the board now so i dont have to read your posts.

To make a post like that without knowing the full details (and obviously only LME will know because this guy jsut had them do the work and he is the cutomer) is totaly iggnorant.

If the head does get real hot... then is a pretty large chance that the motor temp will reflect it. seeing that the coolant goes throug the heads first...and if the heads get hot in anyway, the coolant will get hot then it has to go throug hthe rest of the HOT block.. it would show on the temp gauge.

And if it blew, LME is responsible for their faulty work.. so go ahead and flog on it... they are responsible for their workmanship.

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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 08:02 PM
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Some of us "old time GM-ers" have taken the time to tap gen1 heads in a similar fashion to LT1s to increase the flow through them when rules mandate iron heads and octane rating but not compression. some have noted marginal hp increases due to small timing advancements not previously possible. Whether they are 'required' or not by your builder, it is NOT a bad idea to keep them.
Best wishes.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by asudecat
I dont think the guys at LME are Idiots, you F*ck tard.
They have done many builds like this and have had no problems.
Hell if it goes BOOM then I get a new motor.

My apoligies... your builer is not an i$#ot... you are. I don't care who the builder is the car is what it is.... an LT1.

Peak temperatures at the cylinder head will NOT be reflected in the coolant temperature during a heavy throttle application for a few minutes... the coolant simply CAN NOT build up temperature to reflect what is happening at the top of the piston at the coolant jacket...

If you can't handle the truth then tough ...
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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Merv : where'd you get those fittings? Looks nice.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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How would I be the Idiot??? Im not the one who built it. If LME say's it will work then I trust them. If it blows then I sure as hell should get it re-built for free.

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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by asudecat
How would I be the Idiot??? Im not the one who built it. If LME say's it will work then I trust them. If it blows then I sure as hell will get it re-built for free.

Why did you start this thread? You obviously WERE concened about the rear coolant passages. You heard from several people who suggested that it may not be a good idea...

then you dissed the responses by saying "well I've never overheated etc..."

so when advised to go for it you get upset ....

The builder musk know something about the DART head that makes it exempt from LT1 cooling system rules....

Perhaps you can get the builder to post a response to this thread and let us know how/why the passages are no longer needed...I am sure there are many interested members who would like to understand. While they are at it perhaps they can confirm your warranty on line here so when it goes boom then you will get your free engine..

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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 9T4Z
Why did you start this thread? You obviously WERE concened about the rear coolant passages. You heard from several people who suggested that it may not be a good idea...

then you dissed the responses by saying "well I've never overheated etc..."

so when advised to go for it you get upset ....

The builder musk know something about the DART head that makes it exempt from LT1 cooling system rules....

Perhaps you can get the builder to post a response to this thread and let us know how/why the passages are no longer needed...I am sure there are many interested members who would like to understand. While they are at it perhaps they can confirm your warranty on line here so when it goes boom then you will get your free engine..

regards



I started this thread nearly 3 months back. I did not have the engine in yet and was wondering if the lines were needed while we were in the middle of stuffing the motor in. So I asked in this thread. I then called LME various times expressing my worries. Both Bryan and Pecos at LME assured me that they have done this on many other applications that were daily drivers and have had no problems. So i've put many miles since I've posted the thread. That is why I came on and Updated on on my situation.

I will see if I get get someone at LME to post.
Jason

And the only time I get upset is when people like you come on here hiding behind and screen calling people idiots.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hyperzone
Merv : where'd you get those fittings? Looks nice.
Got them at Lowes, matched up and threaded right in.
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