any one using the Canton oil pan
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any one using the Canton oil pan I put mine on my motor and got the motor all back to gether and now i go to put the dip stick in and it will not go in. Any one have that problem the hole looks like it is alighend correctley just looks like it is not big enogh.
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Re: any one using the Canton oil pan Unfortunatly, 8 out of 10 times you have to put the dipstick in before the Canton pan goes on. Either that or modify the pan a little in that area. Not the best fit.
You may also try just loosening the pan in/around that area too, although you may have to loosen almost the entire pan.
Jason
You may also try just loosening the pan in/around that area too, although you may have to loosen almost the entire pan.
Jason
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Re: any one using the Canton oil pan that sucks hard core. I got the motor all back together. It is almost ready to go in. all i have to do is put the headers and tranny on. DO you think it would be all right to cut the dipstick down so it fights in and let the actual dip stick part just sit in the motor.
Re: any one using the Canton oil pan I wouldnt cut it. What size motor? If you are using 4 bolt splayed caps, you *may* have to clearance the dipstick some to clear the caps. If not, just loosen the pan some and it will eventually go in.
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Re: any one using the Canton oil pan i had problems with my dipstick tube hitting the main cap when i went to put it in with my new motor. i just cut the tube down. the dipstick should still stick straight out of it and read right
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Re: any one using the Canton oil pan I couldn't get mine to go in after I had the motor together and in the car either (using a Canton RR pan) I cut the tube and got it to go in. ONE BIT OF ADVICE......if you do this....don't put the dipstick in, use a dummy plug and just use the dipstick when you want to check it....the crankshaft got the end of mine and tore it off (using a Callies 383 crank) I got it out of the pan before anything major happened but it still wasn't fun. So either make sure its on right to begin with before you put the motor in the car or cut it off and keep a second stick in the back.
If you do cut it off, no it will not read right...or at least mine didn't.
If you do cut it off, no it will not read right...or at least mine didn't.
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Re: any one using the Canton oil pan ok thanks for the advice!!! im going to cut it and do what you said. I will get a plug. Then use my dipstick to mesaure. How far off was your readings after cutting it????
Re: any one using the Canton oil pan Here is the other deal that most people dont know about when using a Canton pan....this info came directly from Canton. Make sure that when you are using the canton pan that when filling your oil put EXACTLY 6qts in. After that, check the dipstick and mark it. even though it may read differently than what the "stock markings" would indicate, it is actually full. That is the purpose for marking it....Canton says that whatever the dipstick reads with exactly 6qts of oil in the motor that THAT is the full mark.
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Re: any one using the Canton oil pan You read my mind. That was going to be my next post. THANKS. You guys that live in Ny any of you race up at the leicester speed way. If so we should meet up next summer. Every time i go there are only like 2 or 3 f bodys there. And like 20 million mustangs.( Well maybe not 20 million more like 19 millon) In my opinon 1 mustang is one mustang to many!!!!lol
Re: any one using the Canton oil pan 96....wow, I just figured you were from NYC since you only have "NY" in your profile <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I live in western NY and race almost every week at NYI (Leichester)....I am sure I have probably seen you there before.
I have a black "stock looking" 93 Formula M6, 396ci solid roller, etc...
We actually have a local "western NY based" LT1/LS1 club if you are interested too....lots of fast cars.
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I have a black "stock looking" 93 Formula M6, 396ci solid roller, etc...
We actually have a local "western NY based" LT1/LS1 club if you are interested too....lots of fast cars.
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Re: any one using the Canton oil pan You would know if you have seen my car up there!! here is a pic to help you look for me
http://www.geocities.com/italianfory...96TRANSAM.html
I would love to meet up and see whats up wtih your car club. right now it is just me and my buddy mustang hatr. I live 10 minutes from the leicester speed way. We will have to go. If i ever get my car all back together???/ lol
http://www.geocities.com/italianfory...96TRANSAM.html
I would love to meet up and see whats up wtih your car club. right now it is just me and my buddy mustang hatr. I live 10 minutes from the leicester speed way. We will have to go. If i ever get my car all back together???/ lol
Re: any one using the Canton oil pan Definatly would have know that car if I had seen it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> What all do you have done to it?
I live in Bath, and go to school in Rochester.
Also, our club is having an event in Buffalo this saturday if you are interested in coming....just having fun racing some go-carts, then going out to eat. I doubt anyone will have their cars there, but we have an event every month in the winter, and usually multiple events each month in the spring/summer/fall. Pretty relaxed club that just focuses on modding/racing LT1/LS1 cars and having good fun with friends.
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I live in Bath, and go to school in Rochester.
Also, our club is having an event in Buffalo this saturday if you are interested in coming....just having fun racing some go-carts, then going out to eat. I doubt anyone will have their cars there, but we have an event every month in the winter, and usually multiple events each month in the spring/summer/fall. Pretty relaxed club that just focuses on modding/racing LT1/LS1 cars and having good fun with friends.
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Re: any one using the Canton oil pan Regarding the fit of the pan around the dip stick tube, I consider it poor engineering. Was sent 2 different pans. Was gonna try a third till I realized (after verbal communication with Canton)it was not gonna be different. The pan covers 1/3 of the tube hole in the block. There is/was no way the pan could be shifted (within the attachment bolt hole clearance) to clear the tube.
In my case, the fix is to cut out that area of the Canton pan, and graft a similar area from an oem pan. When a person compares this area of the Canton pan with an oem pan, the problem becomes apparent. Not even close!
Canton told me their engineering altered the tube clearance location to rectify the problem. Well, what I was told, was that the location of the 'V' was moved parallel with the crank. Don't recall if it was moved fore or aft, cuz it is mute. That is not where the problem lies.
In the end, after keeping the pan, I wrote a polite but very frank letter to Canton. I wrote that I, in good conscience, could not recommend that pan to anyone. I alsotold them that some of their customers are cutting the tube tomake it fit. Well, this is NOT the answer. To their credit, they did appear to be sincere in their attempt to accommodate me, and supply me with a pan that fit. However, their attempt fell miserably short. Maybe if their engineering would just look at an oem pan, maybe the lite would go on. The time and expense necessary to correct their screwup is uncalled for. I've worked with tool design personal for over 30 years. Some are a credit to their profession. Some I wonder how they find their way home at nite, without asking for directions.
In my case, the fix is to cut out that area of the Canton pan, and graft a similar area from an oem pan. When a person compares this area of the Canton pan with an oem pan, the problem becomes apparent. Not even close!
Canton told me their engineering altered the tube clearance location to rectify the problem. Well, what I was told, was that the location of the 'V' was moved parallel with the crank. Don't recall if it was moved fore or aft, cuz it is mute. That is not where the problem lies.
In the end, after keeping the pan, I wrote a polite but very frank letter to Canton. I wrote that I, in good conscience, could not recommend that pan to anyone. I alsotold them that some of their customers are cutting the tube tomake it fit. Well, this is NOT the answer. To their credit, they did appear to be sincere in their attempt to accommodate me, and supply me with a pan that fit. However, their attempt fell miserably short. Maybe if their engineering would just look at an oem pan, maybe the lite would go on. The time and expense necessary to correct their screwup is uncalled for. I've worked with tool design personal for over 30 years. Some are a credit to their profession. Some I wonder how they find their way home at nite, without asking for directions.
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Re: any one using the Canton oil pan Well i can see that you did your home work. I can say also that i would not recomend it to anyone. But as for me im stuck using it now. Thanks for the input.
Re: any one using the Canton oil pan All of the previous issues with the Canton pan have been resolved with the new design. It has a new part number 15-242T. It uses a different core, which solves the steering rack clearance problem, as well as a flush oil level sender mount to allow use of Hooker long tubes. The dipstick tube problem was solved through a change in the core stamping a few months ago, before this new pan became available. There are a couple pics of the new pan on my website.