installed my pacesetters, fitting problem
installed my pacesetters, fitting problem headers went in somewhat easy. But on my drivers side, the collector is sitting above the body crossmember so i can not slip a pipe over it. So i would eather have to notch the body frame rail or trim my trans mount to angle the motor back a tad, which in turn would lower the collector down. Anyone else have this problem. I would assum its because i got poly motor and trans mounts, making everything sit up that extra 1/2 in or so.
i had the same problem and the exhaust shop that did my exhaust heated up the collector and ends of the primaries and pulled it down a tad with a pipe. you cant even tell its been modified.
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Get out the BFH 
, or bottle jack and push up the section of the support a little,maybe about a 1/4", between doing that and poly mounts mine has no more clearance issues.
It's much easier to do this before installing the Y pipe, then after, ask me how I know...
, or bottle jack and push up the section of the support a little,maybe about a 1/4", between doing that and poly mounts mine has no more clearance issues.It's much easier to do this before installing the Y pipe, then after, ask me how I know...
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Originally Posted by Armyman2445
before you get out the BFH I would advise taking out your temp sensor. B/c I didnt and broke it. Save some hassle and take it out just to MAKE SURE YOU DONT.
I would advise taking out your temp sensor. B/c I didnt and broke it. Save some hassle and take it out just to MAKE SURE YOU DONT.
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here is my post about the same issue when I first came up with it...
Here are a few of my pics, from right after the install...
At that stage of the game I should have just beat that bi*ch up but didn't then had to go back ater and do it...
Here are a few of my pics, from right after the install...
At that stage of the game I should have just beat that bi*ch up but didn't then had to go back ater and do it...
Last edited by 1SlowFormula; Dec 18, 2006 at 04:59 PM. Reason: fixing dead link
Uhh, if you guys would have bought the pacesetter y-pipe, its flattened/dimpled to clear the floor brace...
Dont hack it, get the correct stuff.
Or at least flatten the pipe, dont shim the trans down, bend the header, nothing like that... They will all cause other problems.
Except for the poly trans mount, they're about 1/8" too tall, shim the trans crossmember down 1/8" off the body to correct for it.
Dont hack it, get the correct stuff.
Or at least flatten the pipe, dont shim the trans down, bend the header, nothing like that... They will all cause other problems.
Except for the poly trans mount, they're about 1/8" too tall, shim the trans crossmember down 1/8" off the body to correct for it.
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Originally Posted by Taubr Unit
YES!!!!! Thats EXACTELY how mine are sitting. What did u end up doing? That link is dead.
I installed headers, looked at the clearance above and started posting just like you did..
then I tryed to put the y-pipe on and got it on and lined up and there looked like thre was good clearance...
test drove the car and the y-pipe was banging...
decided to change all my mounts to poly and when I pulled the tranny mount I let it hang down a bit (still had the dead motor mounts in) and banged on that cross member, only a little like 1/8-1/4" or so, changed all the mounts and have never had the banging since, even gettign good launches at the track...
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Originally Posted by Fire67
Uhh, if you guys would have bought the pacesetter y-pipe, its flattened/dimpled to clear the floor brace...
Dont hack it, get the correct stuff.
Or at least flatten the pipe, dont shim the trans down, bend the header, nothing like that... They will all cause other problems.
Except for the poly trans mount, they're about 1/8" too tall, shim the trans crossmember down 1/8" off the body to correct for it.
Dont hack it, get the correct stuff.
Or at least flatten the pipe, dont shim the trans down, bend the header, nothing like that... They will all cause other problems.
Except for the poly trans mount, they're about 1/8" too tall, shim the trans crossmember down 1/8" off the body to correct for it.
Originally Posted by 1SlowFormula
John, how the hell did you break you temp sensor by banging the support behind the collector? I guess Talent...
yes it is pure talent. I just had a few bolts holding them up and they come loose and broke it.
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I had the same problem, so I sent the pacesetters back to Summit and bought Jet Hots. I still had the same problem, but not nearly as bad. I replaced the motor mounts to fix the Jet Hot problem. I have seen people that have cut a notch out in that member then fill in the hole with sheet metal.
Good luck, I know how bad it feels to have a problem like that after that much work.
Good luck, I know how bad it feels to have a problem like that after that much work.
Heres what i did, i grabbed a 2x4 and wedged it up between the header and car, i then lined up the y-pipe and slowly brought the header pipe down slightly until they matched up, then you stick y-pipe in far enough so the flattened area fits under that hump, it is no problem at all, took bout 5 minutes for me to figure it out.
Originally Posted by 1SlowFormula
We all did buy the pacesetter Y pipe, read the link I put in above, and you'de see that in the pics...
I had the thing hitting the floor with the stock mounts, did try bending it downward some by wedging a 2X4 against the floor and jacking up the trans tailshaft... Didnt really seem to move though.
I think trying to bend the header got me about a 1/8" more clearance, then shimming the trans cross-member down an 1/8" got me a total extra of 1/4"...
That made the hitting almost completely go away except for during hard clutch dumps.
Then I just switched to solid motor mounts.
Guess I went the 'easy' way around the problem by eliminating flex in the drivetrain.
solid mounts would do it i guess. I just bought all new poly mounts and i still want some sort of shock give. Im not gonna run a y-pipe eaither. So i guess ill try so just dent it in a bit and shim my crossmember and it should work i hope.
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Originally Posted by Fire67
Dont see any y-pipe in the above pics, and if I missed it while reading, its because I tend to 'browse' reading key words till I find something of interest. So sorry if I missed that.