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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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I have a 163,000 miles on my LT1 and still running hard! I am making plans to do a engine rebuild or swap in it later down the road, hopefully much later, want to get 200,000! But truth be told I love my LT Z, my buddies can't believe it is still running as hard as it is. Some of there LS1 motors are already passed away! And it will spank newer stock PUSTANKS!
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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hhmmmm, I'd take the LS1 simply for plug changes and header swaps

But seriously, they are both good and both will get you where you want to go depending on what you want to put into it. For the price your looking at spending you can get a NICE Lt1 car. For 8000 you'll be getting a ragged LS1 (most of the time, I have seen some good deals). Personally I love LT1 TA's with the RA hood, but the LS1 TA with RA hood are sick too, oh no, the choices, aaarrrggghhhh
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
450 < 500-520rwhp
Gosh, I'm sure thankful we have a mathematician in the house



Alright, you're in college, you're going to leave it stock for quite awhile and it won't see the track.

Save your money, get an LT1. People still drop 100 shot on LT1s @ 150K miles. Get a Firebird though, which ever way you go So many Camaros that lurk around.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Formula350
Gosh, I'm sure thankful we have a mathematician in the house



Alright, you're in college, you're going to leave it stock for quite awhile and it won't see the track.

Save your money, get an LT1. People still drop 100 shot on LT1s @ 150K miles. Get a Firebird though, which ever way you go So many Camaros that lurk around.
If hes gonna get an LT1 and keep it stock he better watch out for family cars. There are quite a few that can take a stock LT1 these days. Or maybe he could put some injectors in it for a "great performance gain"
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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holy christ again!




btw where's the guy with the 3 videos, that usually ends the battle.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:32 AM
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Don't get a LT1, You'll regret is more than anything. I sure do with my POS. Hotcammed LT1 that runs a best of 13.5 at 101. pathetic. If I didn't waste all my money on this POS, I would buy me a LS1, but I'm stuck with this shitmobile.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RobZ28
Don't get a LT1, You'll regret is more than anything. I sure do with my POS. Hotcammed LT1 that runs a best of 13.5 at 101. pathetic. If I didn't waste all my money on this POS, I would buy me a LS1, but I'm stuck with this shitmobile.
You need a tune. FAST chip is useless, I don't even know what that is.


Back to topic...basically an LS1 will be faster stock, and respond to bolt ons better. It will pull harder top end. LT1 is cheaper, will do decent with bolt ons, and has some crazy low end torque resulting in a fun as a hell daily driver. Both are great engines and you will have fun with both.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
If hes gonna get an LT1 and keep it stock he better watch out for family cars. There are quite a few that can take a stock LT1 these days. Or maybe he could put some injectors in it for a "great performance gain"

Throttle response and better ionization equates to performance in my book. So for the little I did pay for them, it was a "good performance gain". Would you rather I change it to "Noticeable difference"? Alls the same to me

Don't get your panties in a bunch because I poked a little fun at your deductive skills of the blatantly obvious.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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Mother of God does anyone read?

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
If hes gonna get an LT1 and keep it stock he better watch out for family cars. There are quite a few that can take a stock LT1 these days.
Please, elaborate.
What "family cars" are you referring too?

The SRT Chargers, Jeep and 300C's? ****, thier only 35K. And they only got what... 425 hp.
Or what about the LS4 Monte's/Impala's? That potent LS4 is only 300hp.
( I smoke them pretty easy myself )
Lets not forget about the BMW's. The new M3's are fast as hell. They are only 40K.

I know there are plenty of others, so please continue. But my nearly full bolt on LT1 will smack down most of them, and if I do lose, I could care less.
I got a 12 year old car that sounds great and takes a pretty quick car to beat.
Basically, you failed to mention that these "sedans" are jacked from the box and MOST sedans, as in 97%, I will hand them thier ***.
Sorry for the rant.
I know you said against a 'stock LT1' and some can be rather turdish, but some can be quite the opposite.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by burnzilla
Please, elaborate.
What "family cars" are you referring too?

The SRT Chargers, Jeep and 300C's? ****, thier only 35K. And they only got what... 425 hp.
Or what about the LS4 Monte's/Impala's? That potent LS4 is only 300hp.
( I smoke them pretty easy myself )
Lets not forget about the BMW's. The new M3's are fast as hell. They are only 40K.

I know there are plenty of others, so please continue. But my nearly full bolt on LT1 will smack down most of them, and if I do lose, I could care less.
I got a 12 year old car that sounds great and takes a pretty quick car to beat.
Basically, you failed to mention that these "sedans" are jacked from the box and MOST sedans, as in 97%, I will hand them thier ***.
Sorry for the rant.
I know you said against a 'stock LT1' and some can be rather turdish, but some can be quite the opposite.
Take a chill pill buddy -- he was speaking the truth. Considering that 'econobox' coupes and sedans these days are making close to 300hp from the factory, I don't doubt they'll give a stock LT1 a run for its money. Granted where they make the power is different, and it is mostly top end power as opposed to low end torque. So stoplight to stoplight I'm sure your car does just fine, so don't worry your ego wont' be bruised much more.

I've seen some of the newer econobox cars run mid to low 14s out of the box, and some of the smaller, lighter import cars that are running high 13s with some minor bolt-ons and tuning. Last time I checked a stock LT1 (intake & exhaust) car (with the few exceptions) will run anywhere from 14.20s to 13.80s depending on the driver, altitude, and track conditions.

I'm not bashing the LT1, I love my car -- but you're making yourself sound pretty ignorant. The other fact is that this subject has been to beat to living hell, and basically a waste of time every time it gets posted every week.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RobZ28
Don't get a LT1, You'll regret is more than anything. I sure do with my POS. Hotcammed LT1 that runs a best of 13.5 at 101. pathetic. If I didn't waste all my money on this POS, I would buy me a LS1, but I'm stuck with this shitmobile.
Jeez man, if you hate it that much then get rid of it. dont be a bitch and complain when you can easily sell it and buy something else. Maybe you hotcammed car only runs 13.5 because a hotcam sucks if your looking for performance. Your fault.

I love me LT1. With the mods ive done, I take out every stock LS1 I come by and 99% of the lightly modded ones. Plus you cant beat the sound of the LT1. Another thing, I love the low end torque!
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RobZ28
Don't get a LT1, You'll regret is more than anything. I sure do with my POS. Hotcammed LT1 that runs a best of 13.5 at 101. pathetic. If I didn't waste all my money on this POS, I would buy me a LS1, but I'm stuck with this shitmobile.




maybe your just in a bad track...DA...have a vert...non-experienced driver...and you had to brake to avoid a squirell...never the less

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyHelloOfficer
Take a chill pill buddy -- he was speaking the truth. .
I never said he wasn't.

Originally Posted by WhyHelloOfficer
So stoplight to stoplight I'm sure your car does just fine, so don't worry your ego wont' be bruised much more..
It doesn't bother me.... really.

Originally Posted by WhyHelloOfficer
I've seen some of the newer econobox cars run mid to low 14s out of the box, and some of the smaller, lighter import cars that are running high 13s with some minor bolt-ons and tuning...
You mean, Turbo WRX's/STi's and Supercharged Cobalts.

Originally Posted by WhyHelloOfficer
I'm not bashing the LT1, I love my car -- but you're making yourself sound pretty ignorant.
Obviously you read my post a little fast.
My point was, these "certain" econoboxes are pretty stout. A normal Impreza V6 is nothing. A Normal EVo is nothing. They are N/A 4 bangers.
The "econoboxes" you speak are peak cars for thier class.
I am not ignorant, I know that some of the newer cars will give an LT1 a good run, by my point is they aren't just regular sedans.
A regular Impala is very timid, but when someone buys an SS Impala, they bought it to obviously have some power.
You and Speed Demon are 100% correct, but these little details are important.
Buying a Neon and buying an SRT4 Neon are completely different things, and the prices coincide with that...thats all I am saying.
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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just a little off topic, but dont SRT Chargers run like 14s-15s in the quarter mile?
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Originally Posted by speed_demon24
If hes gonna get an LT1 and keep it stock he better watch out for family cars. There are quite a few that can take a stock LT1 these days. Or maybe he could put some injectors in it for a "great performance gain"
LOL
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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just a little off topic, but dont SRT Chargers run like 14s-15s in the quarter mile?
stock 5.7 hemis will run about a 14.2. the RTs with the 6.2 and all wheel drive are hitting high 12s out of the box.



And by the way my family car is very quick and i think it has one up on the camaro or firebird...... becasue i run abotu the same stock times at the track and i have 4 doors and can actually put people in the back.

But it doesnt have the cool exahust sound....yet.
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Originally Posted by Nikon02
stock 5.7 hemis will run about a 14.2. the RTs with the 6.2 and all wheel drive are hitting high 12s out of the box.



And by the way my family car is very quick and i think it has one up on the camaro or firebird...... becasue i run abotu the same stock times at the track and i have 4 doors and can actually put people in the back.

But it doesnt have the cool exahust sound....yet.

And it's FWD
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