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hmmmm...I'd personally rather pay the 13k for the LS7 crate motor, and spend the rest towards getting that beast stuffed into my 95...and hell my cam only, stock unported heads and intake, and stock TB went 358..
i think if someone gave me 15k to build them an engine, i would go with the a 6.0 truck block and some L92 heads. stuff the block with the finest forgings. do a little touch up in the ports. perhaps a nice cam in the 240@.050 range. single plane carb intake with injectors and a throttle body to match everything for the non f bods, and use the L92 LS2 style intake for the f-bods. have power comparable to the LS7 with out needing the sump. and still come in around (if not under) the 10k mark. but i am just a dreamer.
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Originally Posted by streetwarrior96
Furthermore the LS1 engine is no good for serious horsepower. It has been proven time and time again.
The horsepower rating of 450 is actually underrated by about 100 HP, as this is a stroked and hosed engine that is being offered.
Anyone looking to dump the Del Teq coil pack conversion for an MSD or Stock opti is just a plain fool and does not understand whats going on inside their distributor to warrant the much needed upgrade.
As far as purchasing a new LS1 engine or a Merlin BB I have only one thing to say... "Good luck with that pipe dream". This package for sale includes install and we have another one that is driven every day to back it up. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Sorry my first post had to be so hostile, but I am sure you guys would not have wanted it any other way.
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Originally Posted by SELLC
I think the real "RIP OFF" here is you Streetwarrior96. If your going to run your smart a$$ mouth you should at least offer up a better package for the money. Your statement of "damn this is expensive" best sums it up I think.. You can’t afford it so you may as well rip on it.
Furthermore the LS1 engine is no good for serious horsepower. It has been proven time and time again.
The horsepower rating of 450 is actually underrated by about 100 HP, as this is a stroked and hosed engine that is being offered.
Anyone looking to dump the Del Teq coil pack conversion for an MSD or Stock opti is just a plain fool and does not understand whets going on inside their distributor to warrant the much needed upgrade.
As far as purchasing a new LS1 engine or a Merlin BB I have only one thing to say... "Good luck with that pipe dream". This package for sale includes install and we another one we drive every day to back it up.
Sorry my first post had to be so hostile, but I am sure you guys would not have wanted it any other way.
Furthermore the LS1 engine is no good for serious horsepower. It has been proven time and time again.
The horsepower rating of 450 is actually underrated by about 100 HP, as this is a stroked and hosed engine that is being offered.
Anyone looking to dump the Del Teq coil pack conversion for an MSD or Stock opti is just a plain fool and does not understand whets going on inside their distributor to warrant the much needed upgrade.
As far as purchasing a new LS1 engine or a Merlin BB I have only one thing to say... "Good luck with that pipe dream". This package for sale includes install and we another one we drive every day to back it up.
Sorry my first post had to be so hostile, but I am sure you guys would not have wanted it any other way.
"For this reason we ONLY build our engines with the following premium parts-"
the parts listed are not premium parts and I am sure others will agree with me. I'm not saying my setup is king **** but I do think my valve train is way better than what is offered on this ebay "rip off"
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Originally Posted by Formula350
Lotus designed motor that started back around 1988 and came available I believe first in 1990, only ever in Corvettes. DOHC TPI-ish looking monster.
http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/.../11071996.html
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Originally Posted by streetwarrior96
I do have a better setup than this package that is posted and paid a lot less. Feel free to see the link below. If you want I'll even race against one of these setups. LOL afford it hahahaha your funny. I don't need to rip on it here I can do it at the track all night long if ya want.
Originally Posted by streetwarrior96
You say it's under rated by 100 HP, I seriously doubt it with those Stock GM LT4 heads and LT4 hot Cam. Just because it's stroked don't mean you are going to get more HP. Good luck if it is you selling this on Ebay...looks like 2 things are gonna happen here. 1) some dumb *** will buy it 2) it' gonna sit there for a while and collect dust.
You should take that back right away before people start making you eat it.It does look like two things are going to happen here, 1) When someone buy's it you stand to look like a dumb *** at the track 2) Advertisement
Originally Posted by streetwarrior96
"For this reason we ONLY build our engines with the following premium parts-"
the parts listed are not premium parts and I am sure others will agree with me. I'm not saying my setup is king **** but I do think my valve train is way better than what is offered on this ebay "rip off"
the parts listed are not premium parts and I am sure others will agree with me. I'm not saying my setup is king **** but I do think my valve train is way better than what is offered on this ebay "rip off"
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This engine is set up to handle the dry nitrous system with its forged steel SRP pistons
Furthermore the LS1 engine is no good for serious horsepower. It has been proven time and time again.
Franks and beans!
Originally Posted by SELLC
blah blah blah
Well this explains a lot about that ad. The seller doesn't know the first thing about LT1s or LS1s. Or salesmanship.
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Man, go read some of the other items that seller has for sale, and read some of the ebay feedback. I
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This is on the page:
SAVE BIG MONEY-
Take off $500 if you return a good 4 bolt Gen II LT1 Core**
*********Take off $500 if you plan on installing this engine in a Camaro/Firebird
Take off $250 if you return a good Gen II LT1 2 bolt core.**
Take off $500 if you have purchased an LT1 Photo CD prior to 4/20/2007
** One core reduction per order only please although we do buy cores.
SAVE BIG MONEY-
Take off $500 if you return a good 4 bolt Gen II LT1 Core**
*********Take off $500 if you plan on installing this engine in a Camaro/Firebird
Take off $250 if you return a good Gen II LT1 2 bolt core.**
Take off $500 if you have purchased an LT1 Photo CD prior to 4/20/2007
** One core reduction per order only please although we do buy cores.
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sellc - Look at the LE1 and LE2 packages . You could buy them - resell them with your name on them for a couple thousand more and still charge $10,000 less. If the labor and all the bolt ons and such are included you could charge $5000 less and still have a much better, much faster and powerfull setup. I think sellc is probably not realy the seller of that ebay package anyway - Probably a troll who likes to stir stuff up. I could not imagine anyone making a ridiculous ebay post like that and actually trying to defend it on this site.
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Originally Posted by Mighty Whitey
hmm... care to explain where you found a set of STEEL SRP pistons at?
Originally Posted by Mighty Whitey
nevermind, I'm sorry I ever replied to this post, it's obvious this guy has no clue what he's talking about. go tell this to the multiple guys running single-digit 1/4 mile times in their LS1 cars.
Franks and beans!
Franks and beans!
Franks and beans? No way man... Your talking "Apples and oranges"
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From: Canton Michigan
Originally Posted by donkey mule
sellc - Look at the LE1 and LE2 packages . You could buy them - resell them with your name on them for a couple thousand more and still charge $10,000 less. If the labor and all the bolt ons and such are included you could charge $5000 less and still have a much better, much faster and powerfull setup. I think sellc is probably not realy the seller of that ebay package anyway - Probably a troll who likes to stir stuff up. I could not imagine anyone making a ridiculous ebay post like that and actually trying to defend it on this site.
Why dont you put up or shut up? So far NO-ONE in here has mentioned ANY dollar amounts. Furthermore, no one has offered up ANY real performance package other than "Buy a crate motor". I got news for you people, crate motors dont come installed.
So far you are all FOS and too lazy to even do the math. I have no more time for this. I work on engines that cost more than 3 of your cars put together. Spare me, save all your $hit talking until someone offers up a better TOTAL performance package.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=290119575251
What is remotely LT4 about this motor to make it an "LT4 Clone"?
What is remotely LT4 about this motor to make it an "LT4 Clone"?
Originally Posted by SELLC
You like talking out your *** too?
Why dont you put up or shut up? So far NO-ONE in here has mentioned ANY dollar amounts. Furthermore, no one has offered up ANY real performance package other than "Buy a crate motor". I got news for you people, crate motors dont come installed.
So far you are all FOS and too lazy to even do the math. I have no more time for this. I work on engines that cost more than 3 of your cars put together. Spare me, save all your $hit talking until someone offers up a better TOTAL performance package.
Why dont you put up or shut up? So far NO-ONE in here has mentioned ANY dollar amounts. Furthermore, no one has offered up ANY real performance package other than "Buy a crate motor". I got news for you people, crate motors dont come installed.
So far you are all FOS and too lazy to even do the math. I have no more time for this. I work on engines that cost more than 3 of your cars put together. Spare me, save all your $hit talking until someone offers up a better TOTAL performance package.
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Originally Posted by racerns
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=290119575251
What is remotely LT4 about this motor to make it an "LT4 Clone"?
What is remotely LT4 about this motor to make it an "LT4 Clone"?
Did you even read it? Do you know what an LT4 consist of? Are you being a smart *** or do you just genuinely not know?
You could read the ad and that should about tell you.
Wes's LT4 CLONE
If you really do not know just say so, I would be more than happy to spell it out.
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Now that is not a bad price with a warranty.
