Vendetta

How many times do we have to argue this?

Coonass350

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whos arguing? but what did your 94 camaro z28 run before you sold it?

infinitebird

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what he means is that these threads always turn into pissing matches.

davidv

damn, another thread like this? my opinion is both engines are good, strong, and reliable. both have their good and bad. it is up each and one of you to decide which one you prefer, not someone else's opinion. when i had my lt1 trans am i raced an ls1 trans am, yeah i lost, but only by half a car. so to me lt1's are not that bad, but it is just me. so just hit a search on the engine specs, and decide which you prefer.

p.s if an ls1 is better than lt1 it's ok since its a newer engine, i bet if the ls1 would have (and read well i said "would have") been worse, i bet that ls1 owners would be crying about or going back to owning lt1s.

darrensls1

That's kind of a moot point isn't it? If the ls1 wasn't a legitimate upgrade then GM would never have made the investment to put the motor into thier cars.

If it's not an upgrade in some way then what's the motivation for the consumer to buy a new car? Lord knows GM wanted us buying more cars as opposed to holding onto older models. In the end it was GM crying when the V6 sales were no where near where they wanted them to be.

But LS1 owners had nothing to cry about. Except maybe for some that had piston slap. LT1 owners had nothing to cry about either back in the day. Except maybe for the optispark nightmare.

davidv

you now found my point, so what i am trying to say, while an ls1 may be a better engine, some of the people will still prefer their old lt1. like i said before, it is up to what engine each and one of US/YOU prefer.

darrensls1

There is no may be about it

But it's cool if you prefer the LT1. Nothing wrong with that. I'm just saying that the LS1 replaced the LT1 because it was a higher HP motor with a better head design. And it's human nature for "most" of us to want the latest and greatest.

And no I'm not saying that's the LS1. IMO it's the 427 LS7 if we are talking crate motors and 454 LSX if we are talking strokers

ScreaminRedZ

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If people keep arguing about it time and again, then that means that it's a topic that people like talking about. Why put a stop to it?

ScreaminRedZ

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Exactly. Too many cars that look showroom fresh in pictures online and then look like junk in person. The wrong angle and you'll never notice a run in the paint or a scratch, etc.

Coonass350

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yeah thats what im worried about when im looking at some of the cars on here because im scared to find one i like 2 or 3 states away and then go all the way out there and it look like a piece of junk.

1FstFormulaV8

I bought my LT1 car for $5k, 5 years go. If I came across an LS1 car for a resonable price, I'de buy it. I'm just happy with the thought that I am driving a V8 powered 4th Gen F-Body.

I'll have to go with preference. I've driven both an LT/LS1 powered cars. Both cars are great, neither LT/LS1 cars are slouches. If you're going to go say one motor is inferior to the next. That's absurd. How many of you know of Gen1 small blocks making tremendous power? To call that obsolete or better than the next is just a clear insult!

Just go out and drive an LT/LS1 and see what you like the best. Don't listen to any of us. It's all up to you!

Coonass350

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thanks 1FstFormulaV8 i appreciate you comments, and i will definately drive both LT1/LS1 cars first to see which one i like best before i buy either one.

darrensls1

To call the lt1 obsolete would be wrong. To call the ls1 better then the lt1 would simply be stating a fact.

Here is a good article on the ls1 motor which details many of the improvments made over the previous lt1 motor.

http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_2054/article.html

It makes more power, weighs less, gets better gas mileage and has no optispark. Not to mention the worlds fastest ls1 ran 6.86 @ 205 while the worlds fastest lt1 ran 8.08 @ 174.

You may say that one motor is no better then the other. But I say the ls1 is the better motor. And the way I see it that is by no means a clear insult. It's simply the way GM intended it to be when they designed and built the LS1 to replace the LT1.

Coonass350

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thanks for the link Darrensls1 i appreciate it. and damn that 6.86 LS1 is haulin that ****, and same for the 8.08 LT1

ScreaminRedZ

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Agreed.

otherwhitemeat

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IF YOUR TALKING MODS....MOTOR DON'T MATTER.....AND THE ONLY REASON LS1,S HAVE GONE FASTER IS THAT PEOPLE WITH MONEY GOT INTO THAT CAR INSTEAD OF A LT1 CAR....THATS IT

darrensls1

You don't need to talk in caps in order to get a point across. And do you honestly believe that no one has ever sank a ton of money into a LT1? You can't build a 8 second LT1 with pocket change.

Believe me when I say that there is always someone out there that wants to own a record. I'm sure several people have made attempts at a 7 second LT1 and fell short for reasons other then cash.

Motors and mods go hand in hand. The good news is that both the LT1 and LS1 respond very well to them. You just have to accept the fact that stock for stock the LS1 is faster, mod for mod (mods and trannies being equal) the LS1 is faster.

You don't need to take that personally because it's absolutely not personal. I don't take it personally that 03 cobras are faster then LS1's stock for stock and mod for mod.

davidv

because some people can handle arguments and will start saying **** and stuff that does not have to anything with the topic.

Coonass350

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wow there are alot of post here lol but i know that it takes money to play. its all about how much you wanna spend and how much you can spend.

METALBEAST

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Yeah there is alot of post in here. 6 pages worth in 2 days. Its because people would rather argue about something as pointless as the LT1 vs LS1 debate than give ACTUAL advice on technical issues regarding engines.

BLAH BLAH ******* BLAH.