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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 06:59 PM
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**** 'em all oil companies.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by caldercay
For some of us, there might be more than one reason. We want a daily driver that
"takes away the mileage that would be put on the Camaro". I rotate my cars/bike.

Another reason might be that some folks drive quite a ways to the office and back.
Personally, I put on 60 miles round trip. Other might drive more, many less. If you
think 60 miles round trip every day, 5 days a week doesnt add up at the pumps,
then you might want to re-think your math.

And another reason would be breakage or work. If the Camaro breaks down or
we want to do some mods, those that have another vehicle have nothing to sweat
about to get to the office and back.

Insurance and repair costs are significantly different between a four-door
economy car and a 2-door sports car.

But I understand your point - why purchase a second car for economy when you
may be spending more in "hidden costs". For me, it is partly economy, partly
about rotating vehicles to reduce mileage among them, and also to have something
else to use when one of them breaks.


ya I see what your saying and I agree, those are all valid points. I was just saying that to buy another vehicle soley to save on gas doesn't seem very financially smart. I have a second vehicle (235k shitty *** f 150) that i got for a couple hundred bucks soley as a winter vehicle and emergency back up. but im saying to drop thousands just to save gas seems unwise.

you're right tho to have a second vehicle for back up/ Z modding downtime and to keep the mileage off 'er i agree ya.
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Toronto_LT1
**** 'em all oil companies.
I don't understand this?

It's not like they're thieving crooks?

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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by caldercay
For some of us, there might be more than one reason. We want a daily driver that "takes away the mileage that would be put on the Camaro". I rotate my cars/bike.

Another reason might be that some folks drive quite a ways to the office and back. Personally, I put on 60 miles round trip. Other might drive more, many less. If you think 60 miles round trip every day, 5 days a week doesnt add up at the pumps, then you might want to re-think your math.

And another reason would be breakage or work. If the Camaro breaks down or
we want to do some mods, those that have another vehicle have nothing to sweat about to get to the office and back.

Insurance and repair costs are significantly different between a four-door
economy car and a 2-door sports car.

But I understand your point - why purchase a second car for economy when you may be spending more in "hidden costs"? For me, it is partly economy, partly about rotating vehicles to reduce mileage among them, and also to have something else to use when one of them breaks.
You're talking to the guy who has 3 f bodies. I understand what you are saying completely. I drive my 95 all the time since my Formula blew up and my 93 is currently being fixed up. Once they're all done I'll rotate them to. I don't know exactly how yet since I've never had all three operational at the same time. I'm just saying much like Pro_built7 did that buying a car simply to save money at the pump is an awful idea.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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build an electric can drive all day for $2, just need place to charge it, If enough peaple burn alc and drive electrics, the oil companys will drop back to $40 a barrel, to try to put the compitition down, so save the f-body for weekends and roadtrips. ive ran mine on %100 E85 with a custom tune pulls harder smells good, some lube is a good idea to lube fuel pump/ keep rubber soft, ethanol no where near as corosive as methanol,a regular program can generally handle 50% 87 octane/ 50% 105 E85 comes out to 96 octane, still runs beter than prem unl. lt1"s have high enough compression to take advantage of alc. my DD saturn also likes 50/50. dont forget to pickle it before storage, alc does not store well but it is worth the lower cost and x-tra horsepower to me
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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EXACTLY.. I never saw the point of buying a second vehicle to save a few dollars a week in gas? think about it.. you buy a pos 4 cylinder beater for 1500 or so, have to keep it running, (parts, insurance, routine maintenance ETC....) All ads up,..... HOW are you saving by buying a car that gets 7 mpg more? my Z gets 27hwy and 18-19 city. the typical 4 banger gets what.. 24 city maybe 30-32 hwy.. or so. Unless you're a Green freak or your car is strictly a weekend warrior I don't see the point in spending thousands of dollars on a second vehicle to save a few pennies in gas...
"vehicle" is a bit misleading. I can understand it bein foolish to collect new payments for a couple mpg of another car, but if your z is highly modded and you get something very economical, you will still be on top. My sports bike costs me 10 bucks a week on gas. My z28 was costing me $65+ in the same time period. That is $220 saved right off the bat per month. The payments are $100 a month - still $120 saved a month. Not to mention that although it is a 4cyl, it is of the two wheeled 350 pound variant, and is actually faster then my camaro is and it just has a muffler and euro tune...

Not ditching the car by any means - I love my LT1! It is just nice to have a bit less pressure from gas prices to worry about, and I can enjoy myself on the bike and still save money...money which will be mainly spent paying student loans, but a large portion is going to fund performance stroker shortblock for my Z
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Puck
"vehicle" is a bit misleading. I can understand it bein foolish to collect new payments for a couple mpg of another car, but if your z is highly modded and you get something very economical, you will still be on top. My sports bike costs me 10 bucks a week on gas. My z28 was costing me $65+ in the same time period. That is $220 saved right off the bat per month. The payments are $100 a month - still $120 saved a month. Not to mention that although it is a 4cyl, it is of the two wheeled 350 pound variant, and is actually faster then my camaro is and it just has a muffler and euro tune...

Not ditching the car by any means - I love my LT1! It is just nice to have a bit less pressure from gas prices to worry about, and I can enjoy myself on the bike and still save money...money which will be mainly spent paying student loans, but a large portion is going to fund performance stroker shortblock for my Z
dude lol well thats not much of a comparison.. of course bikes are WAY better on gas? we're talking about cars here man.

and honestly I'll never step on a bike after working in my hospital for the last year.. ugh god... I couldn't even count how many bike accidents there were.. its EASILY in the thousands. and I also couldn't tell you how many amputations I've seen as a result.. crappy stuff man.
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Old Mar 21, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro_built7
dude lol well thats not much of a comparison.. of course bikes are WAY better on gas? we're talking about cars here man.

and honestly I'll never step on a bike after working in my hospital for the last year.. ugh god... I couldn't even count how many bike accidents there were.. its EASILY in the thousands. and I also couldn't tell you how many amputations I've seen as a result.. crappy stuff man.
I've been riding bikes for 40 years and have never been in the hospital. (yea, I'm
knocking on wood right now). The key to survival on the street is defensive driving.

I know that sounds corny, but it's true. I've been on the pavement ONCE in all
the time riding bikes, and that was on the 'Busa (3 years ago). And I ride 'em
pretty hard (yes, I can keep up with the folks half my age, easily )
I've raced motocross and on the track.

I understand your point of view, working in a hospital. My point of view is all the
idiots in their "cages" (as we, in the motorcycle world, call folks driving cars). If
you want to *really* understand how horribly people drive their cars, get on a
motorcycle and drive around town, in the afternoon, or worse, the evening.

And the ONE thing that has made it worse: the cell phone. Anyway, I enjoy all
my cars and I enjoy the 'Busa . . . nothing beats it
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by caldercay
I've been riding bikes for 40 years and have never been in the hospital. (yea, I'm
knocking on wood right now). The key to survival on the street is defensive driving.

I know that sounds corny, but it's true. I've been on the pavement ONCE in all
the time riding bikes, and that was on the 'Busa (3 years ago). And I ride 'em
pretty hard (yes, I can keep up with the folks half my age, easily )
I've raced motocross and on the track.

I understand your point of view, working in a hospital. My point of view is all the
idiots in their "cages" (as we, in the motorcycle world, call folks driving cars). If
you want to *really* understand how horribly people drive their cars, get on a
motorcycle and drive around town, in the afternoon, or worse, the evening.

And the ONE thing that has made it worse: the cell phone. Anyway, I enjoy all
my cars and I enjoy the 'Busa . . . nothing beats it


Yeah I agree my dad is the same way, built his own chopper and everything. I used to want a bike and was actually in the market for awhile until i started at the hospital. that is when i decided to never take the chance. it's unbelievable man, (i'm not doubting your riding ability) but guys will seriously come in here and the next day wake up with no leg. I've seen it so many times i couldn't count. not to mention the guys that go parapalegic or have severe mental trauma.

I can't imagine any amount of fun/gas money/ (w/e) that is worth that. these guys will obviously never ride again, probably won't work.. walk... and the sad thing is some of them are 18 or 19 (+) oh and the best thing is when it's a 16 year old girl on her cell phone who can only say "sorry" afterward.

Ughh shitty stuff man believe me.
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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Haha Gas N Oil Just Keep Going Up Hopefully Hilary Settles It Lol
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Old Mar 22, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Not too bad- it was over 100 to fill the yukon from bone dry last week...but that lasts about 2 weeks normally.
Ouch. Mine was almost bone dry too. It's an Escalade so we should be the same. To think I wanted an H2.
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