LT1-LT4 Modifications 1993-97 Gen II Small Block V8

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 01:28 PM
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I have 2.73s in my car now I got a differanty rear end with 3.42s. If I swap the rears how will the computer react will I be able to drive it or will the shift points be all messed up.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 01:32 PM
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it will be just fine, accept the speedo will be a bit off till its corrected i used lt1 edit to fix mine

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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ok how do I correct the speed
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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tune yo
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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actually that depends on what year car

93 will need a gear changed in the tailshaft of the trans IIRC
obd1 is an easy change using tunercats
obd2 will be a tuning change as well
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Ok I plan to get a tune. Just so I will be able to drive it until then.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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You should beable to drive it just fine until the tune. Just try to figure out how much your speedo is off. You could use one the online gear/speed calculators or go out with a friend and pace next to him at several different speeds. Not exact but you should be close enough to not get pulled over.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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You will probably be ok, although your speedo will be off. Your shift points will be fine until the tune, because although they will be off, your speedo will be off by the same %, so it all works out. You'll need the tune to correct your shift points as well as speedo though.
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hell yeah your speedo will be off, haha. i went from 3:23's to 3:42's and i was following my dad who was going 25 and my car said i was going 40, haha. i'll be getting mine tuned very soon, haha
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The car should be driveable, but the shift points will be off (as well as speedometer). The higher gear ratio will make the PCM think the car is going faster than it really is, causing earlier shifts. At least that's how it is on my OBD2 Camaro, not sure about the OBD1's.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by whammer33024
hell yeah your speedo will be off, haha. i went from 3:23's to 3:42's and i was following my dad who was going 25 and my car said i was going 40, haha. i'll be getting mine tuned very soon, haha
Your **** is way out of whack then. Theres only like a 3-5mph diff between that change. I just made that change myself. My speedo was off before with the 3.23s (factory), but now it's on. So I didn't need to get a new trans-speedo gear
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yeah just going from 3.23 to 3.42 shouldn't cause a 15mph diff

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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaro_freak
The car should be driveable, but the shift points will be off (as well as speedometer). The higher gear ratio will make the PCM think the car is going faster than it really is, causing earlier shifts. At least that's how it is on my OBD2 Camaro, not sure about the OBD1's.
As already said the shuift points will act the same as the speedo since they are interrelated. You are just overthinking this and convinced yourself there was more difference.

For shift points to be screwed up they would have to be driven off the tailshaft speed but then the speed be driven off wheel speed like an old VW van( rear engine, rwd, front wheel speedo) or something, but that ios not the case it is all driven off the sensor in the tailshaft housing.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by infinitebird
yeah just going from 3.23 to 3.42 should cause a 15mph diff
I'll assume you meant "shouldn't"

Both are with 245/50-16 tires factored in.
Here's A4's @ 5700RPMs (since that'll show the biggest change)
3.42s
RPM---1st----2nd---3rd----4th
5700---42----79----127----182
3.23s
RPM---1st----2nd---3rd----4th
5700---44----83----135----192

Here's M6 (95-97)
3.42s
RPM---1st----2nd---3rd----4th---5th----6th
5700---48-----71----98----127---172---254
3.23s
RPM---1st----2nd---3rd----4th---5th----6th
5700---51----76----104----135---182---269
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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I am going threw the same thing. I went from 3.23 to 3.73. I can still drive it around I just stay with the flow of traffic.
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i forgot to mention that i was already off about 6 miles an hour ever since i bought the car. not sure why that is. i was just stating that it got worse when i did the gear change. sorry for the excitement in the thread, haha
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Formula350
I'll assume you meant "shouldn't"
yeah. sorry fixed the typo
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
As already said the shuift points will act the same as the speedo since they are interrelated. You are just overthinking this and convinced yourself there was more difference.

For shift points to be screwed up they would have to be driven off the tailshaft speed but then the speed be driven off wheel speed like an old VW van( rear engine, rwd, front wheel speedo) or something, but that ios not the case it is all driven off the sensor in the tailshaft housing.
When I did my 2.73->3.42 gear swap last year I wanted the shifts to occur at the same engine rpms as with the old gears. The shift tables are specified in terms of vehicle speed, and since engine rpms will be higher for a given vehicle speed with the higher ratio gears, the tables needed to be updated. If there is something wrong with my logic I'm all ears.
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I too went from 2.73's to 3.42's and I noticed a few changes.....
First my speedo was off! But my car would shift the same way as when I had 2.73's. Although at WOT I would BOUNCE off the rev limiter EVERY time I got into the gas! But other than that I just noticed that I would be doing around 60 or so and my speedo/ Tach. would show 80 MPH @ 2000 RPM's (2.73 setup) But drove fine and just racked up a few more miles due to the fact that the speedo was showing I was traveling faster than I was actually going. But nevertheless it was perfectly OK to drive till I got it tuned!
Good Luck
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Originally Posted by jester1614
actually that depends on what year car

93 will need a gear changed in the tailshaft of the trans IIRC
Expand upon this methodology.
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