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You are going to start a fight.
LOL....Not to say I told you so but....... And I do apologize because the members on this forum, myself included, are wasting the bandwith provided for us to help eachother for arguements just like this one. But keep the faith cause somewhere through all this mess, there is usefull information.
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You need to call a cam company, tell them your goals, and then have the heads built to compliment the cam. And I would take a look at AFR, their new eliminator heads have incorporated a lot of new technology from the LS style valvetrain. The springs, valves, retainers,locks, and rockers have been significantly lightened. This allows you to spin higher before valve float becomes a problem.

I believe I will be ordering a set of those over the winter.


Just remember, bigger aint better unless it wasnt big enough to begin with.
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Well... it's a touchy subject and there are legitimate reasons as to why. Since you did the research and found out how these threads turn out what makes you think yours would be any different? The fact of the matter is you're going to have a difficult time finding those who will disclose their times and mods and what they did to get there simply because the people who are that dedicated are few and far between. Most people anymore race the dyno. The simplest way you can go about this instead of stirring up controversy on the internet is call both AI and LE and ask for references.

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Or just pm people who have setups in their signature that resemble what you want. People can be easier to communicate with one on one instead of in masses.
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Originally Posted by BLK,97,T/A,M-6
You need to call a cam company, tell them your goals, and then have the heads built to compliment the cam.
not to be a dick, but is that not the tail wagging the dog?
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This idea that the heads and dam have to carefully matched is a joke.
There are not that great a differences between the same casting of head that it would need a drastically different cam based on the heads alone.
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Originally Posted by BLK,97,T/A,M-6
You need to call a cam company, tell them your goals, and then have the heads built to compliment the cam.
This is the wrong way to approach an engine build. You need to talk over your goals with a good engine builder that has LT1 specific knowledge. Get a solid build sheet estabilished and then get a cam designed to match your engine parts in order to get the most out of it.
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Its all in the heads. The better the heads, the more power you'll make with a variety of cams.
Its better to under cam a good set of heads than to over cam a bad set.
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Originally Posted by BLK,97,T/A,M-6
You need to call a cam company, tell them your goals, and then have the heads built to compliment the cam.
Someone mentioned before.. They know about as much about cam design as, your or I do... Call your head guy....

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not to be a dick, but is that not the tail wagging the dog?
Very Much So.
Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
This idea that the heads and [b]C[\b]am have to carefully matched is a joke.
There are not that great a differences between the same casting of head that it would need a drastically different cam based on the heads alone.
Than why do you have a "package", One thing always compliments another... Granted there is more than one way to skin a cat..

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Its all in the heads. The better the heads, the more power you'll make with a variety of cams.
Its better to under cam a good set of heads than to over cam a bad set.
Without good lungs.. how can we expect it to breathe?

It's the same ol' stuff when this discussion comes up.. Same guy's come on here, Rep AI, all day, claim they have the fastest car's, LE Guy's have the most HP, but in the end it's upto you to go with whomever tickles your fancy.. both are great companies w/ happy customers.. So half the equation is outta the way already... Good luck on your choice.. Let us know how it work's out...
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Originally Posted by 96capricemgr
This idea that the heads and dam have to carefully matched is a joke.
There are not that great a differences between the same casting of head that it would need a drastically different cam based on the heads alone.
I don't think they have to be perfectly matched together or sold as a package, but you surely need to consider both together in your setup. If you have stage 3 heads and a hotcam, your an idiot. Similarly if you have lightly worked or home ported or stock heads and stick in the comp 292 cam, you're also an idiot.

Both the heads and cam have to complement each other as far as how much air the cam is trying to pull in vs how much the heads are allowing. If you don't have a combo that works well together, you're not going to make much power.

That said, I agree that its better to go more all out on the heads than the cam.



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