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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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Default Supercharge Stock LT1? YES or NO . .

I had my superchared 383 stroker out after having oil pressure issue because of sealant being mixed with the oil and ruined some parts.
Now, I'm putting my stock 96 LT1 in the car until I rebuild my 383, my question is would you put the supercharger on it or not?
It's a vortech supercharger with intercooler and close to 8 LBS of boost.
supercharge the stock LT1 or not and why?
Every comment/suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 09:37 PM
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Not worth it on the stock motor, not a matter of if, matter of when it will let go.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 10:38 PM
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uhhh dude a supercharger is fine on a stock LT1 but you will want to drop the boost down to around 6psi if you can..... and it is worth it cause it will give you around 140-150rwhp which means no filling the bottle.... i ran a S trim kit on my 140,000 miles 1995 LT1 for a really long time with no issues until i got bored with it and wanted to build my motor and added a 100 shot to it for some street races.... but if i didnt throw any nitrous to it it would have lasted a good while longer... now take a motor that only has around 70,000-100,000 miles and you will be even better cause i have frinds who did the same as me and are still running around..... now building your motor and forging it will make you be able to really use that blower to its full advantage giving you 200-250rwhp extra but keep a 3.33ish pully on the blower and you will be fine for a lil while..... no offence to the guy that replied but has he ever had a blower on a stock LT1 to really see what happens? of if he did is he sure he has the timing pulled correctly and tuned properly for a forced induction car? probly not if he has problems just bolting a blower on to a car cause think about it, these things are made for stock motors and made to be able to run for a good while as long as everything is installed and tuned properly.... nwo guys go boosting all to hell and thowing custom pullys on blowers on stock cars and wondering why they dont hold up...... by the way did i say it will work on a stock car? lol
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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i tell you what! i need a 2.75 to run with my YSI built motor setup and i have a 3.33 vortech brand pully here that is a little too small for me and the power i am wanting to make.... this 3.33 will make anywhere from 6-7 psi on a 350ci motor.... would you like to trade even? i paid about $80 for this 3.33 pully i have right here!
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bluebeast
i tell you what! i need a 2.75 to run with my YSI built motor setup and i have a 3.33 vortech brand pully here that is a little too small for me and the power i am wanting to make.... this 3.33 will make anywhere from 6-7 psi on a 350ci motor.... would you like to trade even? i paid about $80 for this 3.33 pully i have right here!

Yeah, but how about the belt?
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Hey man, instead of trading (Since I will need this pully again after rebuilding my stroker) will you sell me your pulley and belt?
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:53 PM
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see, that's what I was wondering.

If it's ok to run a SC on a stock motor. Sounds good. This may be something I'll look into, but it'd have to be relatively cheap or a used setup.
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:58 PM
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You know what the problem is? When you get used to it, you can't let go , look at me, I'm just going to run my stock back up LT1 and still want the blower whine to wake up one ******* neighbor every Saturday morning, I just got used to it and hate to let it go even for a short while.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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the belt situation is very easy..... install your pully and take a peice of string and run it around and measure it.... you may be off a little so buy 2 steps above the measured amount as well and take back the 2 that you didnt need..... most times when i buy 1 belt its a hair small and have to go back so now i just buy about 3 belts and then take back whatever ones i didnt need!
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BizZzatch350
Not worth it on the stock motor, not a matter of if, matter of when it will let go.
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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lol!

lol

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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by slick1851
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Good job, if we are calling people names, I'll call you gay. j/k I have seen more LT1s run longer and harder on nitrous with the stock motors then I have with blowers. Put a motor in it, I like blower cars a lot more, the drive ability is way better for the power they make, I have seen guys run pretty tame 355s that click bottom 11s to high 10s and have manners of a stock car, these are cars with S trims and P1SCs or if old school enough p600Bs. But on the stock motors, unless your running like 4.5psi-6psi, they just never seem to last, stock motors seem to hold up better to nitrous. If you already have a blower kit sitting there with the necessary accessories, maybe one thing, but far as going that route right off that bat..

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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 10:51 PM
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sorry to jack your thread, but just adding forged internals to a stock bore and stroke motor would allow you to run fairly high boost right?
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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^ good question
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by lt1noob
sorry to jack your thread, but just adding forged internals to a stock bore and stroke motor would allow you to run fairly high boost right?
Not sure how much different it is aside from the cubes, but my car has a forged 383 and although it is only running 16 lbs of boost right now, the previous owner ran a 19 lb pulley. I think that's a pretty good amount of boost.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 05:58 PM
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Ive been wondering this as well. What do standard rmt systems run at? is it more of a forged piston that are needed or rods and pistons on a stock displacement motor? As well is there a est. of how many pounds per hp there is for stock stroke motors from stock? < newb on boost
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BizZzatch350
Good job, if we are calling people names, I'll call you gay. j/k I have seen more LT1s run longer and harder on nitrous with the stock motors then I have with blowers. Put a motor in it, I like blower cars a lot more, the drive ability is way better for the power they make, I have seen guys run pretty tame 355s that click bottom 11s to high 10s and have manners of a stock car, these are cars with S trims and P1SCs or if old school enough p600Bs. But on the stock motors, unless your running like 4.5psi-6psi, they just never seem to last, stock motors seem to hold up better to nitrous. If you already have a blower kit sitting there with the necessary accessories, maybe one thing, but far as going that route right off that bat..


well thats some what obvious seeing most people are always out of nitrous.... just think if a nitrous bottle never ran out, which do you think would last longer then? and i cant say for sure who i have seen last longer really cause i have seen many people run a blower for years with no issues except keeping good tires or keeping drivers licenses! lol
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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I guarantee you if i put a blower on any one of yours stock LT1's I would blow it up in about 500 miles.
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Bluebeast,

It's tempting, I have seen T trim kits as low as 2K with after coolers. I'll have fun with the gas for now, but a 355 with a T trim would be a fun street motor...

Originally Posted by lt1noob
sorry to jack your thread, but just adding forged internals to a stock bore and stroke motor would allow you to run fairly high boost right?
Way more variables, boost is simply the out put of the blower or turbo. You can destroy a high dollar motor with the best of every thing in it with any power adder if the tunning isnt there, fuel system cant keep up or is mismatched to the set up, timing isn't right, etc...Any car thats going to last has to have the supporting mods and a well thought out set up, have the right bottom end is just part of it.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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so this is a yes, as long as it is tuned properly?
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